Letter: Registration laws must apply to all road users
This is a serious question for the police (Midlands or Powys), has the law changed regarding farm vehicles displaying number plates? Very few, if any, seem to.
If I cross the Welsh border on my motorcycle I expect to be stopped by the police and have my exhaust pipes checked and the size of the number plate, very frustrating when a tractor goes by without plates at all and never getting stopped.
Are the police scared of upsetting farmers?
You cannot have one law for one and another for others.
Nigel Morris
Shrewsbury
Comments for: "Letter: Registration laws must apply to all road users"
ODear
Well done Nigel for raising this issue. I also wonder why you were not asked for your insurance and driving licence as well.
CB
No need with insurance those details are held on a database that the constabulary has ready access to.
Nigel Morris
I carry all documents with me when I enter Wales as I expect to be stopped by them, I know they have little else to do, annoying though!
Grim Reaper
It is also the case that farm tractors - for which considerably reduced vehicle excise duty is paid by the farmer(s) - are (?) supposed only to be used on designated/specified short lengths of public highways so as to enable them to gain access to their fields. This requirement is also repeatedly flouted with no enforcement of it either.
So too is the prohibition that, as with all other vehicles, farm vehicles do not foul the highways (in this case with mud and effluent) but again nothing is ever done about this. In addition, some farmers are amongst the worst offenders when it comes to not complying with the requirements to contact signalmen at level crossings on the railways - hence several of the recent avoidable accidents here in the Welsh Marches.
As to the farming community's vehicles, lack of numberplates and working lights on farm trailers are things we all come across far too often. But, of course, the poor farmers - all of whom are, if you believe the moans of the miserable farmer who earns a nice little penny from helping to present Countryfile, so hard done by that some of them cannot afford to ensure their vehicles are legal before they proceed to chug along - in this case - the A49 at 30mph. Such a shame the poor darlings receive so little by way of public subsidy from us all!
ANDREW FINCH
It seems all to often we have farm vehicles travelling the public highway with no sign of a number plate , trailers with non working lights and drivers who seem unaware of their actions have on other road users regards convoying, lack of signals , talking on mobile phones ,etc etc and on the odd occasion questionable safety levels regards loads carried, they do seem to travel with impunity.
In the past they were permitted to travel reasonable distance from field to field via the public highway however that distance seems to have increased greatly these days " some" are a menace and a danger to other road users, it is also questionable if the police are as proactive with these road users as they are with car, van, motorbike and lorry drivers .
However i did witness a few months back in staffordshire the police ceasing a tractor on the public highway while being watched by a very angry protesting red faced farmer about having to leave his trailer of sillage on the side of the road , so perhaps some forces are more proactive than others? .
Colin Dodd.
Quite agree with all the above. Another hazard I have encountered many times, is that when a tractor is towing an implement that has no tail lights at night, they turn on their rear facing work light, which, as well as being illegal, can dazzle the driver behind them. They do seem to be a law unto themselves.
Bill
I understand the law does permit farmers to use unregistered vehicles on the public highway when that is the ONLY means of vehicular access between two parcels of land which they either own or for which they have a formal tenancy agreement. There is however an element of 'reasonable distance' as a friend of mine who ran two farms four miles apart found out to his cost.
As more and more farmers come to rely on contractors or simply neighbours to carry out specific tasks (ploughing, sowing, silaging, combining, baling etc) the less responsible are, shall we say, pushing the boundaries.
That is not to denigrate the majority - most of the contractors' equipment one encounters on the highway is registered, well lit and well driven.
The Original Jake
The menace isn't the individual farmer, it seems to be the armies of contractors who use agricultural vehicles to commute long distances from their base to the farm they'll be working at on a particular day, even if it's 30 miles away. Are the paying full road duty? No. I'd be interested to know the colour of the diesel in their tanks too.
clive
Also i would like to point out the size of some of the tractors and in particular the trailers they are towing, do they have to have an equivalent to the MOT. HGV's have to have MOT'S for the road worthiness of the vehicle (Brakes etc...). Often i have seen trailers with defective lights, if the farmer can't do this bit of basic maintenance what else has been missed? The weight that they are carrying is not far from what some types of HGV's can carry and they are governed my stringent testing, i'll bet the local farmer doesn't...
aderyn
Many slow moving agricultural vehicles will not move over to allow other road users to pass them as they do not have proper wing mirrors fitted.
Tim
There is no legal requirement for a tractor to carry a front number plate. It must display one either affixed to both sides, or one affixed to the back (Vehicle Excise and registration Act 1994).
Ben
How on earth does Nigel know that police are not stopping tractors? Has he followed them all? Another example of outstanding ignorance by someone with very little idea of what the police actually do on a day to day basis. Well done Nigel.
Nigel Morris
Have I followed them all? Well actually no I have'nt, 35 years of riding
bikes though I have never seen one stopped, lost count how many times I have or friends have, have you read all the replies to my letter? Seems everyone agrees. Another example of brainless drivel.
Tim Roberts
Dear Nigel,
Will you be so kind as to reply to my comment?
Best Wishes
Tim Roberts
reallyconfused
Tim, in reply to your comment on behalf of Nigel....which comment???????
I don't know about Nigel but I'm really confused.
Shuggie
Tim,
What is to reply to? Assuming you put up the comment about tractors not requiring front number plates (see photo too) .. Nigel said "without number plates AT ALL" = front and rear.
I live in North Shropshire and see some VERY dangerous practices by tractors rushing around at 30+ mph. I recently saw a very large 4 x 4 tractor towing 16 ton excavator on a flatbed trailer - towing it was just about OK, but it was having serious difficulty slowing down on a steepish bank. Luckily for the panicking driver he had a run off area. Chances of an emergency stop? Zero.
Nigel Morris
I have been asked to reply to a letter by a Mr Tim Roberts? I only see a letter from a, and I quote "Tim" is that you? Tim says tractors must carry a rear number plate or one on both sides. I rest my case.
Best Wishes
Nigel
clive
Perhaps the Police and Law enforcement officers aren't bothered whether tractors have number plates or not as they can't raise revenue off speeding tractors going through speed traps, just a thought.....