Letter: Why we should embrace solar panels

The necessity of dealing urgently with climate change and energy security brings with it an imperative that solar farms really must be welcomed.

Solar farm

Solar farms in the countryside can be beneficial to protected species. They don’t smell, and they can be screened. After they have served their purpose, the landscape is as before, and in the meantime, they will have delivered enormous human and environmental benefits.

However, planning and foresight are essential, and the Green Party has specified the conditions to be applied before a particular site is approved. In South Shropshire these conditions are as follows:

Solar farms should normally be developed on land formerly used for land-fill or currently used for car parks, business parks and industrial estates; they should be developed as part of an agreed renewable energy policy that supports solar PV on schools, council buildings and NHS facilities and the planning system should encourage this; they should not normally be developed on agricultural land classified as grade 1 (excellent), 2 (very good), 3 (good to moderate).

We think that planners should be aware of both disadvantages and benefits to wildlife when considering specific installations and environments, wind or solar, and make judgements accordingly. This is why we are calling on Shropshire Council to lead the way with county consultation and guidelines.

Janet Helen Phillips

South Shropshire Green Party

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Comments for: "Letter: Why we should embrace solar panels"

Slope

Much has been written in the various comments sections about solar farms being an 'eyesore'. As I drove past one recently, I initially mistook it for glasshouses at first glance. The visual impact is hardly an issue.

Mr Majestic

In your view , my associate has been told by guests iit will bother them and no return should it go ahead one recently wrote to the star to express this view.

Mr Majestic

The For oncee I find I agree with the greens .All these re ent applications are on good usable farm land all are detrimental to wildlife and will damage some other businesses around these particular areas.But hey I am beginning to wonder if two are in the full knowledge they are going to damage rival businesses .

JR

We should only embrace solar panels if and when they are economical and do not require the general public to subsidize them. Lets face it without the public purse no one would be interested in them, they are subsidy-farming pure and simple. They will make no difference to climate change which will occur naturally in the future as it always has done in the past and cannot provide reliability of energy supply given the latitude of the UK on even a daily basis let alone long-term. They do of course help to increase the energy costs of us all with little return for the great majority but fat payouts for the fortunate few. It's good for the Greens to spell out so clearly for us where their priorities lie and how little they are concerned with the cost and reliability of energy supply.to the general public.

Slope

Where's the infinite supply of cheap coal, gas and oil that will keep prices down for ever? Or would your plan be to do nothing now and enter panic mode when things get desperate?

martintudor1

What about public subsidy for other forms of power - nuclear for instance? Or decommissioning costs for defunct power stations? We couldn't function as a country without public subsidy.

Cj

i agree, we should embrace investment in our area when it provides skilled high paid jobs, and solar is least instrusive of all compared to wind and fracking but i support all new technlogies for the environment and for our local jobs and high skilled high paid jobs in particular is what we need round here

Jay Alday

I agree with the greens but we must keep south shropshire and specifically the Aonb special and traditional

peregrine

South Shropshire is no more outstanding than other areas that have embraced solar panels and wind turbines, and from the traffic jams I've seen going to them it has not affected the tourist trade either.

Mr Majestic

Has not affected the tourist trade either? Do you run a business or own and run a holiday let near any of them?.

I and my friends do and i can tell you when things like

Great if you like waking up opening your curtains to view a bloody turbine or walk the local countryside to view acresvof solar panels and little countryside

All appear on TA I can assure you bookings dips and it does affect tourism and ones business , will or should I say can I seek compensation fron these subsidy scrounging oiks NOPE not one penny .I may well sell to some undesirables and let us see if they enjoy there new neighbour's.

Dabber

We have holiday accommodation and our visitors actually say they find the wind turbines within view very relaxing, but what would they know, they only pay to stay.

When you do sell up can I suggest you invest in a spellchecker? They also sort out fiddly things like grammar. there,they're, their.

Mr Majestic

Dabber you made a point you have holiday accommodation what???? tent? caravan hotel, b/b, holiday cottage???? shed?? ow far from turbine ?? solar farm??? then you attacked me for not using a spell checker was that to debunk my opinion and make it irrelevant ?? because of a few spelling mistakes ? Do you really think like that ??suggest you stick to the issue in hand .

My guests pay to stay too my guest opinions matter to me very much ,i am not just interested in the cash and the opinions they give me are very important to me .

My 4 star rating is important to me , further return bookings are important to me , new bookings are important to me , reviews are important to me .People out for a fast buck to the detriment of other businesses are an issue for me .

Some let owners are just there to take the cash and run they do not last very long 6/7 years ish .

Sadly as many farmers who dabbled in the holiday let business under the guise its easy money have found to there cost punters want a lot more than a roof over ones head they want quality beautiful surroundings , furnishings and "views" uninterrupted views are very important for my guests and my associates guests if they were not they would book a haven holiday park or a week in magalluf .

We have recently seen an influx of change of use applications uk wide from some let owners i fear more countryside let owners will be going down that route should more turbines and solar farms be permitted , thankfully my let was not specifically built as a holiday let so not an issue for me but as the majority of applications are from farmers who built holiday lets it could very much an an issue as they refuse change of use application.

Dabber

We have have a cottage along with two chalets for the past 15yrs, wall to wall wind turbines out of the front windows and an array of solar panels within a mile( plus six on the roof) the occupancy levels have actually gone up since they've been in situ, so your argument is?

PS

I see the spelling hasn't improved.

Mr Majestic

Now i am afraid many will not believe that assume your from shropshire a quick google of turbines panels etc proves you seem to be prone to a little porki .Thanks for the spelling advice chalet aka shed then .

Mr Majestic

Would add go public with this fibber sorry dibber .

show these wonderful lets surround with wall to wall turbines inform EEC they can promote clients lets with "hey its got wall to wall turbines lol.

Good greif you sound just like a farmers wife with a cowshed turned in to a holiday let and a turbine in the field .

Dabber

You're (not your) wrongly assuming that they are within the county, and you're(note spelling again) close on the cattle shed reference, as they once were before they were converted.

XXX

theydoronronron

Perhaps time to draw a line underneath this? We have the experience of Dabber countermanded by the intransigence of Majestic and never the twain shall meet.

Mr Majestic

Still on about spelling? bless,

if not in shropshire then sling your hook not interested .However it seems you do belong to the group commonly known as the oink oink group snouts in troughs and bone idle,scrounger money for nothing type.

Woody65

Rather than having fields of solar panels, why don't we use the existing infrastructures readily available i.e. domestic building roofs and public building roofs? Also, as has been suggested before, the banking/sidings of railway tracks and motorways would be more acceptable and less of an intrusion.

I'm sure householders would be more open to having them on their roofs if there were incentives, rather than subsidising the farmer/landowner with these proposed eyesores.

Slope

I don't know the answers, but these are my thoughts. Somebody else might be able to chime in and correct me.

* On domestic and public building rooftops: Perfect for reducing requirement *from* the grid, but how difficult would it be to control potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of individual tiny feeds *in* to the grid from a central National Grid control point?

*Railways: There's loads of space, but maintenance would be dangerous and nigh-on impossible. Rainwater run-off potentially causing flooding problems as the natural soakaway beneath the arrays would be shielded.

Motorways: Similar to railways re. maintenance, albeit to a lesser extent. Danger to motorists from reflective glare?

Having said that, all the options should be explored and assessed on a case by case basis.

Greg Toland

Regarding putting panels on households the primary purpose should be to provide local power to that dwelling and thus reduce the need for National Grid power. In the majority of cases there would still be a need for 'National Grid' power during evening, nights, high power times, ...

The concept of feed-in has been artificially driven by the feed-in tarrif so that householders think they can make money at it.

New build built-in should be the default position for all new dwellings

Woody65

Totally agree.

It should be a pre-requisite that all new builds, both domestic and industrial, should have built-in solar capture energy.

Bearing in mind we need 200,000 plus new homes over the next 20 years or so, it would certainly make inroads to greener energy without defacing AONB.

Terry

I agree with your points Slope and also add that putting these panels on the roof of a house isn't without problems as some have found.

They really need to be built into the dwellings at the design stage but we're having loads of new houses built in the same old cheap, unimaginative, mediocre way around the town shortly.

So long as these houses look 'period' that's all that matters yet we have a very attractive and innovative contemporary business park which should have led to equally 21st century housing.

Woody65

Right about the new builds, as I have said above.