And only last week he was not bothered about the prospect of penalties. He had spent a lot of time watching videos of Italys penalty takers, and knew where they would put them.

Hmmmmm,,seems they never watched the same videos, how unsporting of them.

Other than that, England got what they deserved. Nothing, from a very negative display. Just shows how poor the English premiership is on the world stage. Mind you, the goalposts had a good game, got Mr. Hart out of the mire a couple of times.

Oh for lords sake, shut-up Colin please!!!

just to pick up on you colin... its the Premier League - they have not called it the Premiership for years and years

Oh dear, we are in a bad mood today aren't we,

OK, give me some positives from the game. That should keep you busy for 5 seconds. They were rubbish, had they been playing Germany, it would have been even more embarrassing.

Maybe Hart should have "shut up" last week, instead of telling us he knew where the penalties were going.

town fan,,call it what you like, it's still sub-standard on the world stage.

It does appear that Joe Hart got a bit arrogant before the game. Perhaps he should have kept quiet about how he knew where all the pens were going. Poor England performance overall, when are they going to learn how to keep the ball.

play them like chelsea would, frusterate them until penalties come up, then destroy them with penalties and hopefully they will miss.

guess what? thats what Did happen it WAS englands game to win. not even harts fault the videos floating about reflect an incorrect standpoint it being Harts fault but truthfully it was englands Win with poor Penalty shots. those poor people that boarded the plane to kiev just to be let down like that. all 12,000 of them have my empathy.

Now, I'm no expert on football, but I reckon if England had scored in the previous 120 minutes there would have been no need for penalties.

Well perhaps the England team and the footballers it is made up of, are not a world class team? ?, the players individually may be, but when all put together England have a team which is on par with say Clacton fc playing man united?.

England football is like English tennis MADE UP OF OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OOOOOOOOOOOOH AHHHHHHH ERRRRRRRRRRR OF HOME NOW .

We defended well and got lucky not to concede in 120 mins. If we are to do better in future we have to be more positive in midfield and up front. Rooney should have been taken off he was terrible. Spain took off Xavi last night!

Agree with Two Tone, except that the difference btw England and Italy is less Man Utd and Shrewsbury than (say) Man Utd and West Brom. In other words, Italy are better but, with everyone playing to their max AND a little more luck, England could realistically have won.

There were almost no expectations of England before this tournament. The performance in the last World Cup had been poor, there was chaos in appointing the new coach, who then had just two weeks to work with the team, injury withdrawals etc.

That England then came top of the group exceeded what expectations there had been and led to hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might amaze us all and get to the final.

It didn't happen because Italy were indeed better. The micro-contest between Pirlo and Hart in the shhot-out was a demonstration of how they were better. But England showed they could stick to a plan(even Steven Gerrard) and some of the younger players suggested they have big futures ahead. Certainly, they need to learn to keep the ball, and perhaps team selection needs to be braver.

But the way Italy played against Germany last night makes England's efforts look even more respectable.

Isn't amazing the number of armchair experts out here, and this from a group of people who get excited about their local team getting into the formerly described third division.

It's like taking advice on singing from Telly Savalas.

The Germans did a great job of making England look not as bad as some thought last night..

I'm never ceased to be amazed at the words that come out when a football match has been lost; 'devastated','gutted','heartbroken' to name but a few.

This may be a shock to some "nobody died, it's only a game", and above all "get a life".

I find it astonishing the view of the keyboard warrior / arm chair fan - How on earth you can describe him as arrogant is beyond me.

When someone has immense confidence and belief in themselves they are usually praised and celebrated in other countries, yet on our little island we always go for the negative.

Equally, do you really think Joe simply comes out and makes such bold statements like "I will save penalties for England!?" His words are twisted to suit the agenda of the headline and story.

Perhaps you should watch a full England Press Conference on Sky News and then look at what is written in the newspapers and online the next day.

er was i watching a different match?. england held the probable euro champions for 120 minutes. englands manager had 5 weeks to prepare his squad in spite of injuries.

credit where credit is due. well done england, well done roy hodgson and very well done joe hart.

upset ?

2 days later he`s sunning himself in ibiza with a bevy of beauties as company

another overinflated ego,deflated !