Letter: Wettest drought on record continues

The wettest drought on record is still continuing in some areas apparently. Many famous and influential people have been encouraged to lend their support to the myth of global warming due to our carbon footprint.

Hosepipe, hose pipe

The wettest drought on record is still continuing in some areas apparently. Many famous and influential people have been encouraged to lend their support to the myth of global warming due to our carbon footprint.

One for example claimed recently that Britain had a semi-arid climate. Another claimed that the lower butterfly population was due to global warming. There is no need to refute these statements. The prevailing conditions do that copiously.

Silly claims are often a cover for the truth. The truth is that Britain has a comparatively high rainfall despite occasional drier periods but, massive increase in water use has exceeded the storage arrangements.

Rather than admit this lack of planning, it’s blamed on a non-existent drought. The truth about human- induced global warming is that at best it is an unproved theory and at worst it is an excuse for many flawed decisions the costs of which are passed on to the public.

It has even gone as far as people being paid to invent ways of stopping the sun reaching us, for example, by firing a massive cloud of mirrors into space. Should this lunacy be tolerated?

The fact is that extremes of weather are common today with records kept for more than a century being regularly broken in every direction.

There is no need to invent theories to cover these problems.

The truth was declared by Jesus in the Bible 2000 years ago that the last days would be attended by a great increase in such troubles. This is what we are seeing.

Adverse conditions are unpleasant but are an expected proof of Bible prophecy and an opportunity to turn to God and share the Bible hope for the future.

Peter Keen

Oswestry

Comments for: "Letter: Wettest drought on record continues"

Russ

I was with you right up to the last two paragraphs...errrrr!

JimmyB

Amen!

And the world was flat and had four corners.

And every species on the planet lived within walking distance of Noah's Ark.

The bible is an even more useless piece of trash than the worst tabloid.

Rob, Telford

Oh dear, what next - the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

Two Tone

There's only two Horsemen now. Cutbacks!

towbar

No Rob. Due to inflation you must now refer to the ELEVEN horsemen.

Colin U.

Your last two sentences completely ruined your letter.

There have been thousands of prophecies over the centuries that have been grasped at by religious people as proof of the existence of a deity, none of which have been fulfilled.

I agree that man made climate change is a ruse, but to use this topic to promote your beliefs and thrust them on others is underhand and insulting

twisting my melon

Thrust ??

Nistagmus

'There shall be a host of rains from the heavens. One man shall have abundance, yet another shall be under a hosepipe ban order' Matt 24:13

simple Simon

And so, God came forth and proclaimed widescreen is the best"

Sony 16:9

The Original Jake

Like.

I'm stealing this. Hope you don't mind.

Andy H

Its raining and therefore Armageddon? Stretching it a bit I think.

Simon Parton

Tell you what, these "last days" are lasting rather a long time!

The Original Jake

You need to read up on the differences between fact, theory, hypothesis and faith. You'll find that the one you trust is the least reliable in a tight spot.

Peter

We're doomed I tell ye... doomed!

And he was doing so well until we got to all the sky fairy stuff in the last bit of the letter...

julian

I was going to scientifically take issue with some of your opening points. Then I got to the last two paragraphs and realised I would be wasting keystrokes.

Benbow Tom

The question we should be asking is why the E&S is publishing this sort of drivel in the first place? If you want to consider the validity of theories around climate change look at the wider global picture rather than focusing just on the UK.

The letter claims it is an 'unproved theory'. What on earth are the readings of the Bible then?! The hearsay and views of a few men who happened to have been around Jesus at the time and re-translated numerous times. Many gospels were left out such as those of Mary Magdalene as they were deemed too controversial. Sounds more like Chinese whispers to me.

The focus should be on saving energy at home and getting it properly insulated. You thereby protect your property and reduce your fuel bills whatever the weather throws at us and whatever theories you want to believe!

Jim

I would like to point out that believing in the bible doesn't mean that you don't recognise climate change as fact. The proof for climate change is extremely strong if not irrefutable.

I find it frustrating that you are using the Christian faith to justify your position on climate change. Part of being a Christian is caring for Gods world and denying something that will have such a huge impact not just on the environment but on the lives of millions of human beings around the world doesn't show much care.

Rob, Telford

Well said Jim! I'm an atheist myself, but it's good to hear rational and compassionate opinions such as yours (unlike the claptrap in the last couple of paragraphs of the original letter...).

Nistagmus

Exactly. Maybe God is just going to watch us turn the earth into Hell for our after-life (aka our offspring), because he made us with the capacity, and sadly propensity, to be lazy, scared and cheap.

Katherine de Gama

For heaven's sake. It's only raining. Jehovah's Witness??

Clive

Oh good - climate change isn't happening - great, so we can carry on unlimited expansion and consumption growth without regard for the finate limits of our world after all - who wants solar panels when you can just shovel coal in to a furnace for ever more - whoohoo, I'm off to trade the Prius in for a Humvee. (I've had my boiler off for two weeks now - ALL my hot water has been off the solar panels - but if you want to spend, spend, spend on energy, then solar is not for you ;)

Ad Mant

Why does the SS publish such tripe you ask ... To spark all of the above 'contributions'... Apart from a couple gems (sony 16:9) I fear for the mental stability of my fellow countrymen...

Rich

Unbelievable and blinkered view. If you want to believe in the Bible then thats fine, but don't discredit others beliefs when they have more evidence than that of a book written and embelished hundreds of years ago!

It is also blinkered to believe that just because its raining and colder at the moment that it doesn't mean the world isn't warming globally. Global warming has a whole series of knock on effects and disrupts weather patterns generally!

Fed up of the rain

Peaks and troughs! the weather has been doing this for many many years now!

Katherine de Gama

I'm looking on the bright side. I'm warm and dry in Shrewsbury. Sadly, I have tickets for the Isle of Wight festival but am not camping in two feet of mud, even to see springsteen. Boo hoo hoo.

Michael BrownClee

Sorry Peter I lost you in your last two paragraphs. I had no idea that Jesus was an author and wrote the Bible, I thought he was a carpenter.

So you are saying a book written many years after Jesus by many human beings and edited by the Church to fit in with the thoughts of the Church says the end of days will give bad weather.

Then in your next paragraph you say "hope for the future!" Surely the end of days means the end of Space and Time and therefore the future can't exist.

Don't believe all you read in the ancient media!

Huw Peach

1) Following on from what Jim said in #12...

'The proof for climate change is extremely strong if not irrefutable.'

97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of man-made climate change outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

(Source: 'Expert credibility in climate change', Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA, April 9, 2010, Anderegg, Prall, Harold, Schneider)

2) Secondly, the message from Christian religious leaders is miles away from the apocalyptic fatalism in Peter Keen's letter...

THE ANGLICAN CHURCH

On 25 March 2009 in York Minster Archbishop Rowan Williams, the then head of the 77-million-strong Anglican Communion, made it clear that people should use the climate change crisis as an opportunity to become human again and show concern for others. He also rejected irrational denialism.

'The ecological crisis challenges us to be reasonable... I don't intend to discuss in detail the rhetoric of those who deny the reality of climate change, except to say that rhetoric (as King Canute demonstrated) does not turn back rising waters. If you live in Bangladesh or Tuvalu, scepticism about global warming is precisely the opposite of reasonable...'

(Source: Ebor Lecture, 'Our duty to the earth', full text, Guardian, Thursday 26 March 2009)

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

In November 2011, just before the Durban Climate change conference, Pope Benedict XVI, the leader of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics, urged international leaders to reach a credible agreement on climate change to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions, keeping in mind the needs of the poor and of future generations.

(Source: 'Pope urges international agreement on climate change' Catholic News Service, November 28 2011)

The Pope's message totally contradicts that of the deniers.

He has called for a "model of development based on the centrality of the human person, on the promotion and sharing of the common good, on responsibility, on a realization of our need for a changed life-style, and on prudence, the virtue which tells us what needs to be done today in view of what might happen tomorrow."

I am used to seeing the clear scientific message on climate change being distorted by vested interests and deniers.

I am less used to seeing the message on climate change from the world's faiths being twisted in the same fashion.

I hope people of faith will stand up and speak out against the deniers.

mary f

actually in south shropshier we have faced wells drying up despite the rain, it seems ok now, but still a genuine lack of ground water and i know farmers who have struggled with water shortages

in my opinion it shows we are woefully prepared for climate change

Harold Bound

The IPCC reports are no more reliable on this topic than the Bible is.