Leader: Time that the BBC shaped up
The BBC – Big, Bloated, and Compulsory, funded by a sort of poll tax of the viewing classes in which nobody can opt out of this no-choice service.
The BBC – Big, Bloated, and Compulsory, funded by a sort of poll tax of the viewing classes in which nobody can opt out of this no-choice service.
Its woefully ill-judged coverage of the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee was at the level of children’s television and it is institutionally gripped by left-of-centre bias, seeing and reporting the world through a left wing prism, its attitude reinforced by the cosy collective liberal metropolitan mindset of the chattering classes rooted in places like Islington and Camden.
Shrewsbury MP Daniel Kawczynski launched a withering attack on the Beeb in the Commons, knocking a few nails squarely on the head, ranging from the salaries of senior executives to the like-it-or-lump-it cost of the licence fee.
It is, he says, an out-of-date organisation. It is in an extraordinarily privileged position, spared the white heat of commercial competition through funding arrangements which make it virtually a state broadcaster, albeit an independent one.
Watch the coverage of the Euro 2012 tournament, and you get in a nutshell some of the things that are wrong. How many pundits do you need to interpret a football match? And do they need to be paid as much as £40,000 a go – as Alan Hansen reportedly earns – for what are often banal statements of the obvious?
Meanwhile local services which are really valued by the public are being squeezed and devalued. Priorities are seriously askew and the BBC has been living in its own little dreamland for so long that changing the culture is not going to be easy.
Other organisations have to earn their crust and offer value for money or they go under.
Times have changed and the BBC must shape up. How many people, given a choice, would willingly pay for its current output?
Comments for: "Leader: Time that the BBC shaped up"
sowhat
The BBC is a fabulous organisation offering a fantastic range of programmesto cover ALL tastes. You are flogging a dead horse if you want to start a debate about opting out etc so quit before you can't climb out of that hole you are digging.....
Jesus H Corbet
But you have no choice in paying for it. If you have a TV you have to pay. Why? I don't watch BBC TV or listen to BBC Radio. Why should I have to pay for it?
I don't have to pay to not watch Virgin TV.
Local Resident
I don't think that you actually pay to watch BBC and the license is for the right to receive Radio & TV broadcasts. It's just that the money does go to the Gov't and they subsidise the Beeb. I may be wrong but that's what I always believed!
Peter
Another ridiculous piece of bandwagon-jumping by the immature Daniel, and another ridiculous partisan leader by the Shropshire Star.
Tories don't like the BBC. Why? Because unlike their tame friends in the Murdoch press, in the vile Daily Mail and in the Telegraph, they cannot control the BBC, which remains the only balanced source of news in the UK via television, radio and their websites available to people in this country.
That hatred of the BBC's independence is their motive for jumping on the latest criticism.
To be honest, I think the best thing the BBC could have done with the coverage of the Thames pageant would have been to provide rather less of it - there's only so much you can say about a rather dull procession of boats in the rain. Probably of great interest to those taking part, and no doubt to avid 'boat spotters' but not necessarily to the general populace.
However, I'm sure if they'd not covered every moment of it, Daniel and his friends would have been criticising them for being disloyal - they can't win with the Tories.
The licence fee is far less compared to what you would pay for Sky, and the output of the BBC is in general far more varied and of better quality than the Murdoch empire's output.
There are BBC flagship programmes that I wouldn't watch - for example Eastenders and Strictly Come Dancing - but I accept that many people of all ages like these.
Look at programmes like the various Attenborough documentaries, at programmes like Earthflight, and at the excellent Horizon - that's where you'll find your value for money. If all you want is sport, TOWIE and the continuing pointless lives of Katie Price and Peter Andre then you probably need to look elsewhere.
If you're still in any doubt, look at the excellent radio output. To those who don't listen, I'd encourage you to do so. Believe me, Radio 4 is worth the licence fee all on its own.
ShireFella
"the BBC’s independence" .. You are joking, aren't you?
Yes, Murdoch's press pumps out plenty of poison too - but the difference is, I'm able to choose not to buy any of it.
Powys Geezer
You 'have to pay for it' in the same way as you 'have to pay for' schools if you don't have kids; you 'have to pay for' tax cuts for the rich even though you are poor; 'you have to pay for' the armed forces even though you choose not to personally invade Afghanistan. To be honest if you don't watch or listen to any of the BBC's output you must be missing out. You should try it, you sound as if you would benefit from it.
Jesus H Corbet
Those comparisons don't work. Of course I use (have used schools), of course I pay for armed forces to defend our country. But those are government run organisations.
The BBC is a business that assumes that because I have a TV I must be using its services, and hence have to pay for it.
Powys Geezer
Jesus, schools are run by local authorities not government, by which I assume you meant central government. I noticed you changed my Afghanistan invasion reference to a defence of the country comment. Fair enough, but you are still paying for foreign wars so that part of my comparison remains. And what about the tax cuts argument?
I wonder what you are actually watching if you're not watching or listening to the BBC's output? Please do share that with us, as I can only conclude that there must be some good stuff out there that I'm missing.
Jesus H Corbet
As this is the internet I retain the right to mis-quote you to suit my needs.
Jafa
Hmmm!! Wonder what you views on the NHS are?
Merk
I'd willingly pay for it.
For a corporation that produces so much output, it's natural that the'll get things wrong.
Mat
If you don't watch soaps, how many ITV programmes do choose to watch instead of the BBC option? I wouldn't dream of paying £40 a month/£480 a year for Sky. Yes some wages should be re-aligned but if it is the going rate to get people in then perhaps they have to be paid in some circumstances.
Ann Vassey
Three cheers for Daniel, the coverage of the Jubilee is not what we older people have come to expect from the BBC.
With so many other channels to choose it is time the BBC found other ways of funding their jollies.
Seeing their reporters from events in BBC corporate coats and with umbrellas with logos is unnecessary.
Go Daniel, go.
I'd prefer not to pay the licence feebut choose which programmes to watch.
Pay as you view?
Powys Geezer
I am proud to say that I didn't watch a minute of the Jubilee coverage, so I am not in the least disappointed by whatever it was that the BBC put out.
I did read somewhere about a Jubilee sick bag though. Was that what you meant, Ann? And how do you define 'what we older people have come to expect'? Wrong side of 50? Wrong side of 60, or 70? I don't agree that all 'old people' think alike. You can be young at heart at 90 or a middle aged old whatsit at 30 if you put your mind to it.
Nistagmus
I won't let my children watch the BBC. I insist they watch commercial TV particularly for the adverts. If they don't take on the whole 'buy things to be momentarily satisfied' ethos, the future economy will tank ! The BBC is like the anti-christ to the church of commerce even if its output is vastly superior and isn't interrupted by gaudy sermons. Down with the BBC!
Katherine de Gama
Yes, let it burn:)7
James
This article appears to be little more than a cut and paste of Daniel Kawczynski's comments.
We need look no further than what the Leveson Inquiry to see what the possible alternative to it is (or, hopefully, was) - a media controlled by a bunch of foreign phone-hackers.
Two more things to consider :
1. Lefties think the BBC has a Tory bias. Tories (and the Star) think it has a leftist bias. Monarchists think it disrespects the Queen. Republicans find it fawning and sycophantic. Doesn't all that just suggest it's actually fairly neutral and hence getting most things right?
2. Last I heard, the most-watched channels on Sky packages were BBC ones. Suggests it's still the BBC people turn to for the big events, or when they want quality, reliable programming.
Do agree that football on TV could do without the pundits, mind.
Nistagmus
Having watched some of the Leveson Inquiry I have decided to open a Pet Cemetery. Why ? Because it appears there is the human race and then some people who have left their humanity behind long ago.
'For what shall it profit a man to gain the whole (N.O.t.)World and lose his own soul?'
Sure, there is the money which buys you the ability to eat and sleep well and be revered wherever you go, but then again, lots of people's cats pretty much live like that.
John Howard
"Covers ALL Tastes"?? I don't think so. BBC One used to be the in the first division of television with good news coverage and a variety of quality programmes, drama, etc. In recent years it has gone downhill rapidly. Starting with BBC Breakfast - an utterly pathetic mix of complete non-stories and cringe-making interviews with children who have nothing to say. In the evening we are mostly offered little else but reality shows and "sport", which the BBC have redefined as continuous football. I object to paying £145 for this drivel. I'm happy to watch the sort of output the BBC used to put on via ITV3, Yesterday, etc , and I don't mind the ads I know where the MUTE button is on the remote!
Powys Geezer
I am always amazed that anyone has time or inclination to watch breakfast TV. Maybe you need to get out to work earlier and support the economy a bit more.
deegee550
Let us all be thankful that we have BBC TV and radio which is world class leading in both quality and output.
Do we really want the same lower standards as the USA and most European countries?
As to the cost......40p per day. Excessive? I don't think so.
BBC bashing seems to be currently fashionable amongst journalists who have nothing else to write about and politicians who want to get their name in the paper.
My advice to them is be careful what you wish for.
G Smith
Having just read Daniel Kawczynski report
on the BBC I totally agree 100%
It sums up most people's view and experience
that the BBC have lost the Plot and we have
no option to not pay our licence fee.
Oswestrian
jeff
But without the BBC a lot of sattelite programes would not exist as most of them show BBC programes from years gone by.
The licence fee pays for radio as well TV, just listen to a commercial staion song/advert/song/advert.
Would everyone against the licence fee rather pay a Aussie £20.00 per month for basic TV?
sowhat
BBC may have a lot of sport this summer but that is no longer the norm, The Euros are once every four years as with the Olympics so no one can say BBC has to much sport in the evenings! The programmes won't always satisfy everybody but as a whole they try and cater for all tastes. I repeat again that in my opinion it is very good value for money.
Doubter
Leader in dailymail headline type shocker bashing the BBC as leftie what utter drivel, i am glad i no longer purchase the Shropshire Star comments left or right from such "leaders" have no place in a local paper.
Niall
Really ? Tell you what , try coming here to the states and watching the banal drivel that occupies 500 channels of c*** that pretends to be some sort of entertainment , or vaguely informative about tow truck drivers and repo men ! Where else would you get a series like "Frozen Planet" if it wasn't sponsored by McTurgid burger ?
Simon Parton
While I agree that the BBC does need to get itself sorted out in many ways, I have to say that the Jubilee coverage was very good all things considered.
As for the licence fee? Well they charge a fraction of what some people quite willingly pay to watch the rubbish on Sky TV.
Wayne Chetwood
I wonder how much the BBC spent on a totally unnecessary revamp of the Midlands Today studio recently? (which looks dreadful!)
It's over-spending on things like that which the BBC is guilty of, while making cuts to local programmes on BBC Radio Shropshire.
Peter
As I understand it, as part of the cutbacks to the BBC they have drastically reduced programme output from the Midlands.
They therefore have less space at the Mailbox, and the 'revamp' is nothing more than a move to smaller accommodation in their Birmingham studios. It does look worse, but that's part of the cuts.
For some reason most programming is now made betwen London and Salford. Britains' second city gets less and less of a look in.
Simon Corbbet
Well, I read this with amazement. In a week where we have seen politician after politician forced to explain how they have got to cosy up to neoliberal organizations such as Murdock's empire, the Shropshire Star sees fit to comment on 5 hours of the BBC's output in the whole year, then proceeds to complain about pro-left bias.
Whoever wrote this leader should get a grip.
We live in a society where institutions such as the NHS and the Welfare state are under sustained attack from right wing forces which will do society a lot more damage than the license fee.
I had sky for a while in a location where the TV signal was poor, and let me tell you, I can count on one hand the amount of times I specifically chose to watch Sky 1. It was terrible, I am very, VERY happy to pay a little for a service which to my mind, shows little bias. I'd love to see the evidence of overt left wing bias. It's a scare story put about by it's opponents who do not like to see level headed coverage of issues it would want to see given a neoliberal slant.
If you want to complain about the BBC, then look to the 'race to the bottom' American TV has become. What the BBC does is that it makes sure there is a benchmark and standard which stops the rest of our TV service descends into the utter dross/overt political bias which is characteristic of American TV.
Jayne Oliver
How is it nasty comments to other commentators get through on other pages like this, but a tiny derogatory remark towards Mr K doesn't get through?
towbar
It's full of worn out celebrities who should have been pensioned off years ago,wannabee chefs,mouthy 'micks',failed presenters and past it politicians travelling the globe filming rubbish. All enjoying themselves and costing the licence payer big bucks. Bruce Forsyth,Jamie Oliver,Graham Norton to name but 3 of the many.
Jack
Jamie Oliver on BBC? Not for many years!
Peter
I thought almost all of Jamie Oliver's programmes had been on Channel 4. Are you sure you know which channel you're watching?
Katherine de Gama
The Shrewsbury Chronicle is certainly calling the pot black. I wonder if any of it's staff could get shortlisted for a job with the BBC. TV I snt what it wa but radio 4 and the World Service are impressive.
DaviM
The reduction in quality levelled at the BBC could also be applied to the Shropshire Star. What has happened to this paper? It now appears to be a poor mans Daily Mail with a strong Tory bias. Subscription cancelled.
Nistagmus
I know, I wish it would go back to being the poor mans Fortean Times. Bring back the UFO, Ghosts and Alien Big Cats stories or risk the wrath of your readership !
Katherine de Gama
N, I love those stories despite being cast by most as a member of the chattering classes.
freeviewlicence
the bbc is a wonderful overblown, over paid institution that provides excellent programmes. that said it has some very ordinary commentators, and multi skilling of their talents hardly improves things.
for example claire balding knows a thing or 2 about horse racing, which the bbc are about to lose, but is no great shakes on a jubilee barge.
the murdoch press are behind so many cutbacks at the bbc, who have been forced to sell many of their magazines etc.
i believe the answer to the bbc's woes is selective advertising. on tv bbc 1,3 and 4 should carry advertising. and on radio 1,2, 6 and seven should have advertising.
i would like to see less duplication of interviewers between radio and tv. and finally i do not expect to see a commentater dressed in waders commentating in 1 foot of water. waste of our money. so come on bbc more cutbacks please and on the sport front i assume we shall soon be down to the marathon, great north run and highlights of the olympic torch run, or are sky bidding for these as well!
Nistagmus
I've had a great idea ! How about we put adverts all over sport programmes !?
Perhaps we could have them sprayed on the grass in a sort of trompe l'oeil, or displayed around stadiums, or as a backdrop when someone is being interviewed, or even put companies logos on sport-stars clothes.
This idea could make the BBC a mint......wait, what's that ? Oh.
eva land
The reduction in quality levelled at the BBC could also be applied to the Shropshire Star. What has happened to this paper? It now appears to be a poor mans Daily Mail with a strong Tory bias.
Have to agree with this comment and find Nigel Hastilow and Peter Rhodes particularly tedious.
One thing regarding the BBC that is positive is the move to Salford.
We have a country that appears to be presently made up of Wales, Scotland, N Ireland and London.
Deryn O'Sullivan
I quite enjoy the BBC offerings, radio, TV, watched football in HD last night for the first time last night too. Local radio stations are excellent, and a lifeline for many people, and often more entertaining than their national/ commercial counterparts. I wouldn't do without Radio 4 or Radio 5, personally.
Katherine de Gama
Eva, I disagree. England is central to national identity though, of course,London dominates.
Nistagmus
I've ignored London for years without any ill-effects. I suggest everyone do likewise, you'll barely feel a thing after the first 30 seconds. Imagine there's no London, it's easy if you try.
Rob Harris
Wife and I packed in watching standard TV. It was a bit like emerging from the matrix, painful to begin with but a growing recognition of an alternative reality.We have far more time for family, people in general and other interests. We still watch dvds and Iplayer etc when the mood takes but the compulsion to sit google eyed watching total dross is gradually receding.(Mind you having real conversations rather than the grunting that used to pass as communication during the ads has proved difficult!).
Basically if you don't like the meal don't eat it! TV is not compulsory.
ps The £145 saved on the licence fee is paying for our internet
doubter
You watch Iplayer, that is a BBC service for which a license is required.
Rob, Telford
"You do not need a television licence to catch-up on television programmes in BBC iPlayer, only when you watch or record at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is being broadcast or otherwise distributed to the public" - BBC web site
R Suppards
I too object to be compelled to, in effect, pay for the BBC just so I can receive TV signals (which we get via cable anyway).
If the BBC were to be funded directly by a smart card type service, I'd probably buy a smart card. BUT I'D LIKE THE CHOICE and I'm guessing that a lot of people would opt out and stick with the over-advertised cable and freeview channels. That would make the BBC sit up and take notice, scrap a lot of its fringe channels and concentrate on mainstream BBC1/2 and Radio 1/2/3/4.
However it's fair comment to say that the cable and freeview channels are click after click of total (mostly American) garbage, massively over-populated with mindless adverts for stuff I am not the least bit interested in, and worst of all, synchronised so that to escape the dirge of adverts you have to switch to BBC. Maybe the Beeb does have its uses.
john
ITV has just as many football pundits so that argument's a non starter.The argument that the BBCis left-biased is a myth.Since we have a Coalition made up of a Tory majority,the BBC always question the Govt. that is in power.It just happens to be a govt. with a Tory majority therefore any BBC questioning is seen as left-biased.This happens when Labour is in power it's mistaken for right-wing bias.
The BBC employ as major political editor Nick Robinson ,who's as Tory as Cameron.
Don't forget all the radio stations on the BBC.
So Daniel wants the BBC to be a commercial station like say ITV ?ITV 's programmes are the lowest common denominator in tv programmes.
Stop whinging and be grateful for the BBC
Cybernaut
Non-readers of the Shropshire Star make an involuntary payment towards it when they buy the products of companies whose advertising keeps it going.
ED
I am currently working in Ireland, my laptop recognises I am out of the UK and will not let me log on to BBC i-player - due to it being outside the area of licence fee payments.
So how come my hotel has BBC 1, 2, 3 and 4?
I was in Belgium last month and my B&B had BBC 1 and 2!
Cybernaut
I worked for the BBC making programmes. Whenever those programmes are shown outside the UK, I receive an additional payment - derived from the payment the BBC gets for them. The BBC is actually a big exporter. It spends the money it earns making more programmes.
radioman01
Because the hotels are either picking it up from Sky or have a receiving aerial pointing to a UK-based free-to-air transmitter. The whole east coast of Ireland can pick up UK channels in that way.
Jimmy
I used to pay for SKY - The sports package and the movie package. I also got SKY 1 and a few other channels.
It was massively expensive so I packed it in.
Pretty poor value, too, I found I still mainly watched terrestrial tv
I'm much happier with terrestrial TV, although the Beeb have been too timid when dealing with the coalition which has them by the purse-strings.
Andrew Marr should hang his head in shame the assertions he lets go unchallenged on his show.
And don't forget we also receive radio through the BBC.
What other medium than Radio Shropshire covers our local area in such depth?
The Tories just want to hand the Beeb over to a right wing propaganda machine a'la Fox News.
JOHN JONES
Is it just me, that when I see a satellite dish on a house, I think what a waste of a life?
Port Hill Boy
May not be just you, but perhaps those who like sport, enjoy Sky Arts, new run drama and comedy, would strongly disagree with you.
When tv first became accessible to many, the 1950s, there were snobs then who derided those that bought sets....
Simon Parton
Yes John, It's just you!