Wellington traders forced to remove displays

Thursday 12th January 2012, 10:59AM GMT.

Owner of J. P. Fruits, John Painter, outside his business in New Street
Owner of J. P. Fruits, John Painter, outside his business in New Street

John Painter has been showing off his fruit and veg outside his store in Telford for more than 20 years.

But council chiefs have now ruled the display – and others outside shops in Wellington – are ‘dangerous to pedestrians’, and they have now ordered a number of traders, including Mr Painter, to remove them by the start of this week or face the consequences – a hefty fine.

The council said it had received complaints about the displays and letters sent out threaten a £1,000 fine for failure to comply.

Mr Painter has now packed up his fruit and veg and moved it all inside the shop, saying he felt the letter inferred there would be ‘zero tolerance’ if he ignored the demands.

He said his store J P Fruits, in New Street, had always displayed produce and plants outside, but he said in the past year other traders had encroached further and further onto the street and said he thought that had prompted the council to take action.

Mr Painter said if he was banned from having an outside display permanently the effect on sales would probably finish the business off.
Policy

Wellington traders may face a £1,000 fine for encroaching onto the street

Wellington traders may face a £1,000 fine for encroaching onto the street

Letters sent out to Mr Painter and Veena Arora, who runs Tip Top Fashions in the same street, say displays deemed to block the highway fall foul of offences under the Highways Act.

The traders were warned that the council could take action to remove stock if they did not move them

Councillor Shaun Davies, cabinet member at Telford & Wrekin Council, said today the authority was considering introducing a policy which would allow traders to apply to display stock outside their stores.

He said: “The council fully supports all traders in the Telford and Wrekin area, and we want to work together to reach a balance which encourages trade, but at the same time is safe for the public.”

Mrs Arora, who has run her shop for seven years, said she removed her display for two days but said no customers came into the shop.

She said: “They should be encouraging people to open more shops. ”

Mrs Arora has run the shop for seven years but said she would close if she had to remove her displays.

“It is very upsetting. The customers have been very supportive but the shop cannot survive like this.”


  1. 1
    jeffb

    Now will the council enforce the law and prosecute people riding cycles on pavements.

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    • julian

      I’d have thought riding on the footpath would be criminal law, rather than civil law. In which case the council would have little to do with enforcing it. Fun though it is to blame the council for absolutely everything amiss with you life.

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    Robert W

    There’s nothing wrong in a bit of fruit and veg brightening up a rather dull area of Shropshire!

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    • Vamperic

      great just wasted my time commenting on the other part of this article!!!
      i think what has propted this is not the grocer and their wares but the shop you can see next to them in the photo who has gone over the top with his tent-o-stuff! but because nothing was in place to do anything about it they have had to introduce something that covers every trader.
      they shuold stop blaming the council (I know its hard) and blame the shop keeper that puts up a big top every morning and ruining it for all the other shop keepers

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    nick

    the council needs to use some common sense – this is a pedestrianised street with no traffic and outside displays add to the character and help trade. I’m afriad this smacks of a jobsworth!!!

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    Lee

    Do people still go to Wellington? Last time I went it was Charity Shop City

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    • nick

      I’ll think you’ll find it’s changed a lot and the regeneration is starting to have a positive effect. There are lots of new developments going on.

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    • Bigcat178

      Sorry Lee. I agree with Rob. We have the best market in Shropshire. And the charity shops ain’t bad either! As for the shopkeepers not being allowed to display their stock outside their shops. I suggest Cllr Davies takes a walk through Wellington sometime. Thats if he has the time to spare!

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    Rob

    Yes Lee – people do still go to Wellington. We have butchers, grocers, tea rooms, a gents outfitters, a fishing/shooting shop, a sports shop, a bookshop, a camera shop, real ale pubs, a market with 100 stalls, not to mention a few multiples (Holland & Barret, WHSmiths, Dunelm etc) PLUS three new independents in the last year – a fancy dress shop, a 50s milk bar and an outdoor clothing shop, with other businesses lodging planning applications as we speak. Drop in and see…

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    bob dobbs

    To be fair, the said Fruit and Veg shop ‘outside’ display has been getting progressively bigger and bigger and working its way right into the street, same with Tip Top fashions.

    I’m all for outside displays but it seems these particular stores has been pushing their luck.

    Frankly, if I were J P Fruits, I’d be more concerned in getting the front of your building painted, the paint has peeled and it doesn’t look like its been touched for 30 years. If you don’t care about the presentation of your building how do know you care about your stock?

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    • Rob

      Quite! The fruit displays have always looked great – amongst the best in town – yet the building itself has been getting worse for years. A shame Mr Painter doesn’t live up to his name…

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    Brian

    We do live in mamby pamby lant and. Somehow we have managed to exist with street displays of fruit veg for decades without and problem.
    Well the good councilors do have to try and justify their existance

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    lisa

    never heard anything so silly in all my life ! whatever will the council do next

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    mr t

    i like wellington ive lived all over telford and wellington is a nice place to live everyone friendly

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  10. 10
    DavidB

    In the year 1244 Wellington was granted its Market Charter. Before that we can be quite sure that Celts, Anglo Saxons, Romans and Normans all traded there.
    There does not seem to be any record of mishaps occurring – that is until Telford & Wrekin Council have stepped in – now that is a mishap!
    Before the Council becomes candidate for Bedlam it should consider other safety issues:
    – shopping trolleys in the big supermarkets are pretty formidable: all trolleys should be fitted with bumpers to prevent damage to vehicles and shoppers; a maximim speed limt for trolleys should be applied; trolleys should be fitted with flashing warning lamps and horns.
    Come on Telford & Wrekin Council you should be proud that Wellington has a good base of local traders when other towns are dying because traders are closing down – take a look down the road, Market Drayton, Wem, Whitchurch and so on.

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    • Drone

      And while you’re at it, T&WC, make it mandatory for mobility scooters to be fitted with indicators, brake lights and reversing warning sounds. And those orange lights and klaxons like they have on fork-lifts. They’re a fatality waiting to happen!!

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    • Jason

      Just a small point, Wellington Market Charters were most definitely not granted to the town but rather individuals who made money by charging tolls on livestock and goods bought into the town by traders.

      Yes, markets took place before 1244 but it was the lure of making money legally that led Giles of Erdington to pay Henry II for the first known charter for the town.

      Furthermore, there was greater concern shown towards the quality of goods being sold than there was for how much floor space was taken by each trader.

      A little tolerance by our illustrious leaders and public servants (e.g. the tales which wag the dog) who hide behind what they perceive as The Law wouldn’t go amiss.

      See my other comments below.

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    Josie P

    I don’t think the displays were a danger to pedestrians. Yes, I do think cyclists are more dangerous. I thought the fashion shop’s display was very unsightly and the veg shop’s outdoor offers were too cramped to navigate. But if the Council want them removed, they should be honest with their reasons and quit fabricating excuses.
    @ Lee: What is wrong with Charity shops??? I LOVE them and they allow low income families to buy “new” stuff without spending a fortune. I donate a lot and buy a lot.

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  12. 12
    M.Owen

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but this street looks like a pedestrianized area. How much space do they need?

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  13. 13
    let me have my say

    So after doing it for 20 years, its now deemed dangerous to have it on display outside. What has changed over 20 years!!!! health and safety, give traders a break.
    How would the council feel if these traders throw in the towel and sell up and wellington becomes a ghost town.

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    Dave Jones

    The local council tried a similar thing in Stafford claiming that the trader’s stalls, what there were of them, were causing a hindrance to pedestrians. Shortly after they littered the town centre with metre-high cast iron ‘anti-ram-raid’ decorative pillars which of course did not present any problem at all. ‘Dogs in Mangers’ ?.

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    Elfin Zaveti

    Whassat? A skinana bin dropped on the pavement? Hock! Shorror! Lethal – could kill someone in a fall. Close the street displays. Put up warning signs “MARKET STALLS CAN BE INJURIOUS TO YOUR HEALTH”. Call out the Army! Cordon off the area until the pavements are again safe for cyclists.

    Another nail in the coffin of the fun factor …

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    Jason

    It strikes me that Borough Council employees are too quick to side with complainants and tar all traders with the same brush. Yes, the shop next to the grocer’s has taken liberties but wouldn’t it have been better and more grown up for the council to speak privately with the proprietor to resolve the problem? Other points worth considering are these: 1. Traders have made use of their pavement space to advertise wares for over a century without any problems, even before New Street was pedestrianised. 2. Without ‘pavement’ space being used, the street would look cold and uninviting, with a harsh streetscape comprising concrete, brick and glass … the very thing a market town like Wellington needs to avoid: streets need to be colourful and attractive 3. I see Councillor Shaun Davies says that the authority ‘was considering introducing a policy which would allow traders to apply to display stock outside their stores’ … so, does this mean a) the present victimisation of traders isn’t really anything to do with Highways Acts but rather with raising money by charging traders to obtain licences to encroach on their piece of pavement?; b) if Mr Davies is so much in support of traders, why doesn’t he withdraw these letters and apologise … and make public why he didn’t intervene in the first place; and c) where is the ‘co-operative’ element in this self-proclaimed co-operative council?

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    • Dick James

      As someone who has lived every one of his 40+ years in Wellington I can’t recall many shops that have used the street outside to display their wares, and certainly not in New Street. For over a century, you say? You must have a long memory. Some stores may have done so since pedestrianisation, but prior to that the footpaths on either side of New Street would not have been wide enough to allow such a practice without forcing people to walk into the highway & taking their chances with the traffic.
      Anyway, I don’t disagree with some of what you are saying about shop fronts in a market town being made to look inviting with displays, etc, however as I understand it, the two stores in question have been ‘expanding; further and further out into New Street for some while. Forget the Highways Act or Health & Safety, isn’t it the case that they are expanding the size of their stores whilst not paying any additional business rates for having done so?

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      • Jason

        Long memory? Hardly … the information is there in old newspaper reports and photographs for anyone who cares to look. My family was in business in the town for much of both nineteenth and twentieth centuries and the unwritten understanding was that goods could be displayed across the pavement provided there was sufficient space for pedestrians (not prams: they were and, I believe, still are classed as vehicles and should have used the road itself) to pass.

        However, these two stores (and a few others) have, at times, allowed their displays to encroach too far. The clothing store next door to the greengrocer’s is a simple case where the Borough should have dealt with the problem without sending out a blanket letter to all traders.

        Our leaders have seen this as a wonderful opportunity to penalise ALL traders wishing to make some us of their pavements in order to raise money.

        So much for supporting our traders and being a caring council. As many people have observed, Labour leaders had 35 years of destroying local economies; the Conservatives did a lot over the last few years, and now Labour is doing its best to reverse the trend and carry on the destruction from where they left off. I’m not a political person but anyone with half a brain can see how little the local Labour brigade care. Shame on them!

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    Vamperic

    TO ALL YOU FOOLS THAT KEEP BLEETING ON ABOUT “ELF & SAFTEY” GROW UP!
    THIS IS THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO USE AND ONCE AGAIN HEALTH AND SAFETY IS BEING USED AS AN EXCUSE TO TACKLE A SPECIFIC PROBLEM. CANT YOU ALL SEE THAT!!!

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    • R Suppards

      Not quite sure what point you are trying to make here (apart from not being able to spell) ?

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      • vamperic

        is there ever a point to make on these comment boards? its just an area for people to have a rant. sometimes when you see everyone else missing the point you have to have a go. (yeah i know that the spelling aint great but its more down to my ability to type and not really caring that the odd word here and there is misspelt.) (although that may be undermined by the fact that i have replied to you but thank you for your valuble critique it was very trollish and should have given you a warm glow inside)
        all my love V

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    bill

    The Co-operative Council is shooting itself in the foot by undermining the ‘high street’ in Wellington and Newport and supporting investment in the plastic shopping centre and more out of town shopping. Seriously Cllr Davies needs to read the Mary Portas report to see how the council could support the market towns by being flexible, innovative and by rejecting out of town shopping centres.

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    towbar

    Shaun Davies thinks that he is untouchable. He
    has been notified numerous times about cars illegally parked on pavements blocking pedestrian access in streets of the ward which he was elected to represent. Action ? As usual,nothing.

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    Jason

    Aha! So I was right when I said, ‘I see Councillor Shaun Davies says that the authority ‘was considering introducing a policy which would allow traders to apply to display stock outside their stores’ … so, does this mean a) the present victimisation of traders isn’t really anything to do with Highways Acts but rather with raising money by charging traders to obtain licences to encroach on their piece of pavement?’

    So much for thinking Mr Davies and his colleagues were genuinely concerned about Wellington’s traders.

    I do think it disingenuous of him NOT to mention this when interviewed earlier, and reinforces the belief that the current Labour leaders of the Borough Council are NOT concerned with improving trade in the conurbation’s townships but will do anything they can to raise money to help ya the debts that they initiated during their last period in office together with the outlandish and unjustifiable costs to be incurred with the ill-fated Southwater development. I try not to comment on party politics but I think it rich that the Labour leaders seem hell bent on returning to the unsustainable policies that, over some 35 years, almost brought the Telford conurbation to its knees.

    I despair! The co-operative council, like honesty in these circles, seems to be little ore than a fairy tale.

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    roadrunner

    So initially they were “dangerous to pedestrians” but now allowable but only if a yearly fee is paid to make the footpaths “dangerous”, so it’s Greed 1-Safety 0 as far as Telford and Wrekin council are concerned.

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    Chris

    towbar is perceptive in analysis of Shaun Davies at least Phil Homer moved to Tenneriffe where he really was untouchable whilst he continued claiming his fat allowance and gold plated pension will the people of Malinslee never learn? They have again chosen to be dictated to by one of apparent devious and dubious intent. Labour conned us all with their failed promises.
    They have to claw back revenue from somewhere what better than punishing the highstreet retailer. Shaun Davies obviously has not familiarised himself with Mary Portas report maybe because it makes just too much sense for his meagre understanding of economics or he is hell bent on making his name known no matter what.

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    Michael Wilkinson

    you can see from the photographs that there simply is no room for pedestrians,Oh no,my mistake its a pedestrian area so they have the whole road to walk on.
    £50 is just the thin end of the wedge and another way of lifting more cash from hard up shopkeepers who also pay high rates,rent, have to pay their own pension plans,no council top up there along with minimal holiday time and a 6 day week.

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    DAVID HURDLEY

    Another way to raise money for a Labour run council trying to kill small business.
    How many times over the year’s have they tried to kill off the local centres.
    Telford Town Centre is slowly becoming a shopping centre blighted by empty shops so is there another sinister reason why those at Malinslee are targeting Wellington ?????

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