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- Dave Burrows
£60m Shrewsbury incinerator gets the go-ahead
Tuesday 10th January 2012, 11:00AM GMT.
An artist's impression of the proposed waste incinerator at Battlefield
A controversial £60 million incinerator for Shrewsbury was today given the go-ahead. Planning inspector John Woolcock has ruled that Shropshire Council’s waste contractor Veolia will be able to build the facility at Battlefield Enterprise Park.
The incinerator will be used to burn waste from across the county. Veolia had appealed against a decision by Shropshire Council which rejected the plan in 2010.
Today Mr Woolcock said: “I allow the appeal and grant planning permission for an energy from waste facility for the combustion of residual municipal and similar wastes.”
He approved other parts of the scheme including ancillary buildings and an extension to the existing household recycling centre.
Groups including Shrewsbury Friends of the Earth, the Battlefield 1403 visitor centre and Shropshire Council all opposed the plans during a six-week hearing in the autumn. They cited a range of reasons why it should be refused, including its proximity to the site of the historic Battle of Shrewsbury.
But Mr Woolcock ruled: “I disagree with the council’s conclusion that the proposed development would cause substantial harm to the setting of high value heritage assets, and I consider that BF1403 has overstated the likely impact of the appeal scheme on the setting of the registered battlefield and other heritage assets.
“The proposal would result in minor harm to the registered battlefield.”
By Chris Burn
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The incinerator will cost £10.8m a year and the county has only around 70,000 tonnes left after recycling. It will be Englands most expensive waste burner.
At the same time Wales is going for 70% recycling which works out a lot cheaper.
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Not just domestic waste though Keith, commerical will go there as well, plus waste from Telford i would imagine given the incinerator there didnt get permission.
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The best news i’ve heard today, prehaps now Telford won’t be forced to be the county dump anymore. Landfill can finally stop and Shrewsbury can deal with its own rubbish whilst powering their own homes. It’s win, win, win for us down the road.
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TOLD YOU SO ,only the deluded would ever imagine once proposed this idea would not go away .
As for impact etc etc i doubt it will have any that would amount to very small detrimental effect to to the area.
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I take it you support the incinerator, since you enjoy burning recyclable waste.
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victorty for common sense – perhaps now our cardboard can be collected
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The people who brought their cardboard to the Cardboard Christmas event last Saturday ( http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2012/01/09/hundreds-queue-for-cardboard-recycling-in-shrewsbury/ ) wanted it to be RECYCLED, and to give the proceeds to 2 local charities.
They didn’t want it to be burnt in an unpopular, PFI-funded incinerator, andy.
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Well carry on then.All people are different .
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But different people have the SAME waste service
And judging by the wave of protests against incinerators across the country most of the public don’t like burners.
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i took mine there but I dont see why, paying my council tax I should have to. I dont care whether its recycled or burnt, I just dont want it stockpiled at my house until I’ve got enough and/or the time to cart it to a collection point. I would venture to suggest that “The people who brought their cardboard to the Cardboard Christmas event last Saturday wanted it to be RECYCLED” feel the same and actually the vast majority of people dont give a fig about recycling as its just a con anyway
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No surprises here. Just more confirmation that politicians and local councillors no longer run this country. Big business – in this case a multi-billion pound French company – can run rings round our elected representatives and trample all over the wishes of local people. So much for democracy!!
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So if it’s not going to an energy recovery centre should we keep dumping it into the ground in Telford?
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Author of the article: Chris Burn!! Good to see the Shroppy Star still has a sense of humour!!!
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I cannot believe that the Council’s decision has been overuled. Waste will have to be brought in from surrounding counties to keep this monster going and impetus to increase recycling will be lost. Why did we have to be the county with an incinerator when many have been refused – why oh why could we not have gone along the zero waste route.
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Not at all surprised. There were never any real material reasons why this incinerator shouldn’t be built.
I wonder how much the applicants were awarded in costs from the council.
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An absolute disgrace. The people of Shrewsbury had better get used to breathing in heavy metals, dioxins and carcinogens. If I had children living here, I would seriously consider moving as they are the most of risk.
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for god’s sake this is the 21st centuary – we are not talking about some victorian coal fired factory here it will have filters etc on the outlets, stop scaremongering
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Bob, do you live in the darkages of burning unrifined coal?
The filters on this thing will mean nothing more than CO2 will be vented into the atmosphere.
Welcome to the 21st century
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The 21st Century…
One of the chief features of the 21st century so far has been UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT, Gringo, so this incinerator is definitely a symbol for our time.
By the way, what do you think about burdening our kids with the PFI debt repayments for this burner, when Shrewsbury people and their politicians of ALL political colours have made clear their total opposition to it?
Is it a sensible use for scarce resources?
Do you think this is fair to our kids?
Wouldn’t it be better for our kids to inherit a cheaper, circular waste system, which treats waste as a resource rather than a linear waste system which spits out useless ash at the end?
I think, though, that one very encouraging feature of the 21st century so far has been that, across the world, ordinary people are no longer content to stand on the sidelines when they see corporations trampling over democracy and sending their shills out to manage debates on threads like this.
Welcome to the 21st Century, Gringo.
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“I think, though, that one very encouraging feature of the 21st century so far has been that, across the world, ordinary people are no longer content to stand on the sidelines when they see corporations trampling over democracy ”
What? – the only ordinary people I’ve seen not standing on the sidelines has been the Arab Spring – you can hardly equate this issue with that! Seriously, to adapt a famous saying, Never in the field of local issues, has so much tosh been said by so many.
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Shills are sent here to encourage us all to remain silent, passive, isolated, discouraged and fatalistic, and to swallow the propaganda that yesterday’s anti-democratic decision was ‘Good News’ for Shrewsbury.
However, the Arab Spring has inspired people to realise that standing up and saying NO to decisions, which show contempt for public opinion, might change things for the better.
Why is it ‘tosh’ to think that 21st Century people from one part of the world can be inspired by the bravery of 21st century people in another part of the world to speak out for democracy in their local area?
Surely, the more of us who think globally and act locally the better.
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Absolute rubbish Mr Davis , no pun intended.
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Not much different to living downwind of Ironbridge power station then – oh look, most of Telford does.
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Surprise surprise, I wonder if this would have been granted if it was proposed to be built in Copthorne, Kingsland and other such places. Me thinks not.!!!!!
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No, of course not. These things are always given a massive chimney and located on the northern edge of towns. Nothing to do with prevailing winds and pollution you understand.
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That is because there are no industrial estates in Copthorne or Kingsland. Think before you speak.
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theres a rail line running the side of battle field site why not run tracks into veolia loads the train and send it to france . there will be loads of ilnessis from this the house prices will fall and the guy who sign for this has been well paid we need to stop this before it starts know a nother reappeal
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dead animals will be burnt there as well !
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No they won’t. What’s proposed is not a rendering plant.
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I would hope so Robert. Imagine the outcry if they were still alive.
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Like a barbi?
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I love a BBQ.
Seriously the Scare stories people are comimg out with is rather Funny, put some evidence up rather than words.
I for am glad its been granted, Lets get on with it.
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better than wind turbines ?????
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH yes it is, at last some one on the same wave length.
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Super news now we can import other peoples rubbish congest our roads more and cause more damage to the environment mr barrow and co will go down in history as the council where democracy and decency is devoid,2013 is coming i hope people remember that democracy is only good when it works when you lose it then you become devoid of fellings.Dead animals smell lovely on a hot day i used to smell them when i lived else where i then became a vegeterian.
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Theres an abatoir even just down the road from the incinerator, Harlescott has stunk of dead animals for years.
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What utter nonsense! How will receiving rubbish from telford increase traffic. The only thing that will change is, the wagons will be full when entering Shrewsbury as opposed to returning empty.
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The rubbish will move by road so traffic will increase how else will it get there do residents need this i think not.
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Don’t you mean Chrisp Burn Pukka Pad !
You have to laugh at the comments here.
We’ve been burning people next to a sixth form college for the last 40 years. Not that much different to animals robert except animals rarely have dental treatment with mercury fillings and other bits of prosthesis in their carcasses.
That incinerator has had an inefficient chimney for several years and it has only recently just got to the stage when it will be resolved by the Co-op acquiring the running of the ever profit making crematorium from the town council in exchange for undertaking the necessary and overdue expensive improvements to the chimney which will hopefully give those in Sutton Park and Abbey Foregate cleaner air. All our young people at the college too, Haggis.
[I cannot believe that the Council’s decision has been overuled.]
But was it, Gill? The deal was done with Veolia and the county councillors back in 1997. This is the price we pay for councillors who vote against officer advice. They still rake in their £3,500 per annum allowances whatever they vote and we are led to think we have a democratic system.
[can run rings round our elected representatives and trample all over the wishes of local people. So much for democracy!!]
Our elected members made the deal with Veolia in the first place John!
We will never be told the cost of this appeal Grey, apparently it is not in our best interests!
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UNDEMOCRATIC: When councillors sign contracts with massive financial consequences, which go against the local waste plan, without public consultation.
DEMOCRATIC: When councillors listen to public opinion and try to reflect that in their decisions.
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I cannot believe it – I wonder how many of the above supporters of the scheme live in sight, smell or sound of it, few I think.
Some years ago I attended a planning meeting regarding the building of the waste recycling centre where many members of the public asked the question of the councilors and planning committee members present, does this mean an eventual incinerator plant on the site. Their answer was categorically NO.
As usual, they say one thing and do another, because within a very short time they were signing contracts with Veolia enabling the building of the incinerator.
Can someone also please confirm, we in this area do not generate enough waste to keep the incinerator going, it will be bought in from outside the county – Thanks Councilors, and Mr. Woolcock – where exactly do you live??
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This is outrageous. How can a planning official situated in Bristol know and understand the situation in Shrewsbury. I hope there will be a public enquiry in to how this decision was arrived at.
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Totally unnecessary and out of scale with the genuine size of the waste problem. This is classic whitehall / corporate thinking, importing an urban solution to a rural area, its akin to using bendy buses in ludlow or something.
Shrewsbury produces less than 25,000 tonnes of rubbish each year. Ok its not de rigueur to say this in waste / environmental circles perhaps but actually with that level of waste generation, you could easily continue to rely on landfill for another 50 years or more.
Its not anywhere near as polluting as it used to be and its safe, proven, stable and cheap. Furthermore you can reduce costs by recycling and pre-sorting the waste before landfill.
An investment of this scale cannot be justified for so little waste, it is as they say using a cannon to kill a mosquito
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Another person who knows nothing, the energy recovery centre is for Shropshire not just Shrewsbury and Shropshire has over 60,000 tons
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Well that’s me finished with recycling, everything will now go in the rubbish bin, and let them sort it out, I’m now sending a F of I. R. to find out what councillors signed the wast contract,
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I have now sent in my F.O.I. request to the council.
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They will need a lot of dead cats to keep that thing working.
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we are getting one in bedford as well dispite all the campaigning etc, an its only a few miles from where we live,
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I’m guessing the people who think this is a good idea and that ‘common sense has prevailed’ don’t live within view of this monstrosity that will be burning waste from numerous counties not just Shropshire.
It’s sickening that this has happened!
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Every time you turn your light on do you think of the potential damage the power station at Buildwas may be causing the people of Telford, I thought not.
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WHAT A AWFUL,but expected outcome!!!,complete waste of taxpayers money,this incinerator will only STOP people re cycling, what is the point when there is a bonfire burning 24/7 on our doorstep,we will now have to live with this for the next few decades or more,they say there is minimum risk but will they still be saying that in 20 years time?????
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Another example of how Shropshire Council are doing a fine job of killing off Shrewsbury (probably literally in this case). Absolutely shocking decision, I can’t believe it has been given the go ahead.
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May i suggest you do your homework on how this plant works dear.
Prey tell us all how it is going to kill off the residents of shrewsbury and beyond precise details please.
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I have read the report which claims that the facility poses no harm to health, but they assured us asbestos was safe all those years ago.
I personally would not want to live, or bring up children near to a plant such as this.
Read more: http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2012/01/10/60m-shrewsbury-incinerator-gets-the-go-ahead/#ixzz1jF7wHBTv
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I believe Shropshire Councils own press release indicates that the Secretary of State now needs to confirm that the application can go ahead.
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a most undemocratic decision. time for the mp to assist in having these plans called in for a rethink by the department of the environment.
if a little village in cornwall can go to the high court and win their case against cornwall council, thus stopping an incinerator on their doorsteps, it is time for those affected in shropshire to have their voice heard. come on dk mp do something
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Heard DK on the Radio yesterday blaiming Brussels/Europe for this when in fact its his Tory Councilliors with the final decision to allow the incinerator to go ahead by Secretary of State Eric Pickles.
Dont expect too much of a Whimper from DK unless its about poor farmers having to suffer in the current climate, yet said nothing about council workers “forced” into a paycut.
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The trouble with Daniel Kawczynksi is that he takes up each and every issue that comes to his attention in a half-hearted and ineffectual way. I’m sure he means well but I’m not going to rely on him to save us from anything or save anything for us…..direct rail services to london, RSH Children’s Ward, school closures, milk prices paid to dairy farmers, Shrewsbury Ambulance Control Centre, Post Office closures etc etc. Has he won a single campaign (apart from his seat at the General Election)?
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Has he won anything, apart from his seat at the General Election? No, of course not. After all, like all the rest of his fellow MPs, he put all his energies into getting what HE wanted – his position as an MP, along with an inflated salary, lavish pension provision and all the allied expenses – for which we are all paying. Do you really think that any of those in the House of Commons give a damn’ about their electorate?
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I agree. DK MP needs to do something about this. Do we need a Minister for Refuse and Recycling to make sure a national and consistent approach is adopted to a major problem of this age?
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I have read the report which claims that the facility poses no harm to health, but they assured us asbestos was safe all those years ago.
I personally would not want to live, or bring up children near to a plant such as this.
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Good news that it is going ahead. As some have already said, the 21st centruy doesnt put dioxins up the stack. The Environment Agency will regulate it quite hard I suspect.
Many of the anti’s strike me as NIMBYs. Where do they think their rubbish goes….with only 5-6 years worth of landfill sites left in the UK we have to do something (& a EU directive to reduce landfill). Admitted it isnt as good as recyling/re-use, but it is a tool. Landfill is the very lowest in the waste hierarchy..lower than low (due to leachates into the ground & ground water…YOUR Drinking water! – OK it is protected but…).
And dont forget the by-product…energy production!
Good news for commonsense if you ask me.
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Well done to common sense, anything new and we seem to be against it, in a few years time we will not think anything of it. I wonder how many people objected to the incinerator who actual live in the Harlescott area, think of the jobs to build and to run this plant. This is more beneficial than the monstrosity on the river bank in town.
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If it is ‘common sense’ to want to build an incinerator, why did every Westminster candidate in Shrewsbury and Atcham voice their opposition to it at the last general election?
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to win votes from the people of north shrewsbury
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Get your facts right Debbie. 200 workers to build it. Few if any recruited locally.
21 low paid jobs E.European immigrant and Agency staff to run it . Some Benefit !!!
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this is a terrible verdict, at a time when the public sector needs to save money to borrow £60 million seems crazy, now the council (i.e. us) will be landed with a massive liability which will put our taxes up, this is simply rediculous to use such out of date and inefficient technology and at a time when waste is declining nationally, recycling values are increasing and so the actual cost and need for waste disposal facilities will be falling
Dumb, dumb, dumb
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This is certainly NOT GOOD news for myself and the people living close to it and the many schools in the area. It has been stated by the planning inspector mr woolcock that there would be low risk of harm to human health from the emissions, this is simply not good enough we dont want to hear low risk we want to hear NO RISK,this is our lives we are talking about,and as for the place creating jobs in the construction process, will they use local firms etc?…. doubt it.
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the maths dont add up on this
if it was such a shrewd investment veolia would not need a subsidy these things never get built commercially they are always taxpayer funded, ergo they are not economical,
if they would like to try to prove me wrong, tell us the costs, they wont because the councillors / rate payers would not stand for it if they knew the true price of this
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CONTROVERSIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i suspect the main organisers opposed to the incinerator have been in contact with the villagers of st dennys in cornwall, who have stopped their council in their tracks in the high court
the latest is that cornwall cc are appealing.
sounds like you need a new mp up there asap.
aj devon
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Of course Veolia know what they are doing and so did the County Councillors who made the deal back in 2007.
The Town Councillors then throw it out to look good as so do the MPs speak against it in Parliament, and it’s all at our expense!
And were not even allowed to know how much our democratic system has cost us!
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…but we all know this would have cost a lot less if the decision in 2007 had been open and democratic.
Do you relish the prospect of taxpayers shelling out millions that we don’t have for this PFI-funded incinerator, eva?
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Huw Peach @ 8
really cant fathom out what your latest rant is about
you use phrases like anti-democratic – surely if the vast majority of people dont care less about this issue, it isnt democratic at all to pander to the beliefs of a few protesters, taking that to its logical extreme is a recipe for anarchy. My point is and it seems to be supported on here is that actually most people are in favour of it. About time this whole recycling/climate change/environment issue is exposed for the sham it is.
if you really havent got anything better to do with your time, and there are far more pressing issues that could do with it, then I feel sorry for you
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Well said, Mr Peach is presumably the resident bandwagon jumper
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But only if the bandwagon is a zero emission model and made of recucled cardboard
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I understand that some would prefer it ‘if the vast majority of people dont care less about this issue’, but we are not going to go away and we are not going to give up.
If ‘the vast majority of people don’t care less about this issue’, then why did 61% of the population take part in a local referendum on the King’s Lynn incinerator in February 2011?
That’s 70,763 out of 115,382 eligible voters.
More than 92% voted AGAINST the incinerator there.
Would you argue that the 65,516 who said NO to the incinerator there were just ‘a few protesters’, andy? Or are you saying that they were all anarchists?
If ‘most people are in favour of it’, then why was incineration ruled out by the local waste plan?
And why did ALL Shrewsbury and Atcham’s general election candidates speak out against the incinerator?
As for the ‘far more pressing issues’ what are your feelings about taxpayers forking out millions that we don’t have for this scheme, when it would be cheaper and better for the environment to expand recycling?
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what has Kings Lynn got to do with Shrewsbury??! Absolutely nothing – your arguements dont hold water – face up to reality your protests dont mean anything and being blunt mate – nobody’s listening
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If 92% of people in West Norfolk Borough voted against the King’s Lynn incinerator, then it suggests that the people there don’t believe the ‘good news’ stories that the shills are telling them.
I think the King’s Lynn incinerator debate reveals a lot about the state of local democracy in our country.
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So much for democracy!
THE PEOPLE OF SHREWSBURY HAVE SPOKEN, WE SAID NO!
this must not be allowed to proceed. lobby your MP, write to Eric Pickles, dept of local government and communities and say we dont want this in our area
- it harms the battlefield
- it devalues homes
- it jeapordises public health
- it undermines recycling
- its not economic
- it will require waste from telford, chester and powys in order to operate
- it is against the public wishes
- it is specifically not allowed in the local plan
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I think you’ll find that the value of property cannot be taken into consideration by any planning issues.
As a local resident I don’t mind it being built, or is my vote not considered as being democratic in your world?
As somebody has said the ‘yes’ and ,can’t be bothered’ whssperers far outweigh the ‘no’ shouters, time to give up and let democracy be the winner.
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kevlar supporters wanting to register a clear response to the incinerator decision (and get rid of their cardboard sustainably at the same time) might want to add their signature to Patrick Cosgrove’s excellent petition on the Shropshire Council website:
http://petitions.shropshire.gov.uk/petitions.ti/cardboard
This is calling for the council to RE-INSTATE KERBSIDE COLLECTIONS OF CARDBOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, like other councils.
Currently 1528 people have signed the petition.
If it reaches 2,000 signatures before 31st January, then Shropshire Council will be forced by the rules to debate it for the 2nd time in 2 months.
So please get your family, friends and friends’ friends to sign it, too.
I’m not that proficient with Facebook or Twitter yet, so if any budding greens out there are, it would be great for you all to spread the word to the local Twitterati.
Pushing it up to 2,000 names in 18 days’ time would be a ’21st Century’ way for Shrewsbury democracy to give a King’s Lynn-like roar of disapproval at this decision!!
I would love to see what the ‘good news’ merchants would say then.
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So one of our esteemed local councillors we pay allowances of £1000 a month has irresponsibly advised people not recycle anymore so that we will produce a sufficient amount of our own waste. This would therefore prevent us making some money for the town (The reason the deal was made in the first place by his colleagues, I should imagine) bringing some waste in from other areas.
Has it not occured to him that the increase in population alone may do that job for us in the not so longterm by the time all the areas allocated for new housing in Shropshire are completed.
The enthusiasm for log burning stoves produces more dangerous toxins yet they are credited with being environmentally friendly!
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Do you relish the prospect of taxpayers shelling out millions that we don’t have for this PFI-funded incinerator, eva?
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i am gutted this will be a disaster for the town leaving a toxic legacy for our grandchildren to pay for
its disgraceful the way its rammed through behind closed doors with MY money
how about we withold the proportion of the council tax which goes on waste in protest?
(its £29million per year out of £146 million raised by council tax or about 20%, over £200 per household) if anyone wants to do it
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i am outraged with this decision, its not right and its not fair, this is our town, we need to take it back
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Viva la revolution, Comrade
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the only thing that will move eric pickles is the thought that shrewsbury will vote labour in 2015. eh up is that your tory mp waking up.
no doubt the tories are supporting a yes vote in scotland, because if it goes independent, labour lose 41 seats in parliament.
the ancient borough of shrewsbury needs to bite the voluminous bum of eric pickles and get this decision overturned
floreat salopia and good luck. if this decision is not revoked. shrewsbury northwards will be permanently blighted and a drop in house prices will outstrip credit crunches etc .
any asthmatics need to move now if they live anywhere near this belching monstrosity
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The only thing to upset pickles is if greggs stop selling pastys and vote labour maybe they could send dead people there and undercut the crem now the council have sold it to the co op.
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really is getting silly now – nothing as amusing as mass hysteria and knockers getting twisted – you’ve reallt brightened up my week with the rubbish (no pun intended)spouted on this issue
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sorry knickers in a twist!!! laughingh so much I couldnt type straight
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If you are a tax payer Huw then you have paid the county councillors who made the deal with and for Veolia to build their incinerator.
So you agree with the councillor that is speaking with forked tongue and now telling us not to recycle?
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As a taxpayer I feel let down by those who signed the initial 27-year contract without prior public consultation.
However, as someone who believes in local democracy I was heartened by councillors reflecting public opinion and rejecting Veolia’s application -a decision that you have consistently attacked.
The councillor you speak of has consistently promoted green solutions like recycling and food waste collections.
His words a couple of days ago merely reflect the impossible and invidious situation that Shropshire residents find themselves in.
We all want to keep as much as possible out of landfill, we have -in only a few years – developed excellent recycling habits ( http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2010/11/01/shropshire-achieves-household-recycling-record/ ), we want to build on what we have achieved, but our council (nudged by its waste contractor) has stopped us recycling the bulkiest part of our waste.
I know that Veolia is rubbing its hands in glee at Shrewsbury receiving waste lorries from here there and everywhere to feed our expensive and wasteful new habit, but many people here cannot understand why we are doing what a corporation is telling us to do rather than vice versa.
Now for the 3rd time, do you relish the prospect of taxpayers shelling out millions that we don’t have for this PFI-funded incinerator, eva?
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I am very happy about this as hopefully the land fill behind Horsehay golf club won’t get used as much so i can have a round of golf without choking on ammonia and sweeping dirty nappies off the 11th green :)
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a terrible decision this will ruin our town with a once charming medieval town turned into a moden eyesore, we will become like telford, worse still we will be telfords dumping ground!
this must be over ruled by an elected representative in government not some faceless beaurocrat ruining our town and increasing our council tax to boot!
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But it is ok for Telford to carry on being Shrewsburys dumping ground, where do you think your rubbish currently ends up?? Certainly not in ‘Shrowsbury’…
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Not a good day for the environment
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this is really bad news for people and the planet
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i heard councillor barrow on the radio (completely out of his depth on this) saying veolia are doing a great job
LOL!
how out of touch is he? he needs to take his head out of the clouds and see how real people live, i mean i bet they dont miss his bin because they know where he lives but in the real world if he spoke to anyone in shropshire he would know that the service level has gone down the pan since it was privatised
veolia cant even collect cardboard or collect in the snow so how can we trust them not to run the incinerator ‘on the cheap’ too and harm our childrens health through more mismanagement
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Don’t forget Shropshire Council would have had to pay Veolia £2m if this incinerator had been rejected.
Whichever council official set up this contract should be named and sacked.
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as a local resident i am devastated by this
i hope maybe if i move now the house wont be too devalued but i simply wont live with this near me not being able to do laundry outside or enjoy the air i breath
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very unhappy with this imposition
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this development is out of character with the surrounds and the town in general
yet if little me wanted a mere satallite dish or something they would throw the book at us and take planning enforcement action
this is typical of the uk in general there is one rule for the big boys and one rule for us mere underlings who only pay for it all, look at tesco or other supermarkets doing greenfield developments out of town at will whilst real people cant even build themselves a house for local need
its disgusting and typical of this unequal and rotten country we live in and its only exacerbated by having conservatives running the show, it makes me want to emigrate, this country is no longer ‘great’ britain
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This is great news. I suppose the people against this want a big pile of garbage?
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Huw you are a laugh.
[heartened by councillors reflecting public opinion and rejecting Veolia’s application -a decision that you have consistently attacked.]
No I haven’t but you only read what you choose to. I merely comment on the ridiculous.
Prior to this comment you said…
[As a taxpayer I feel let down by those who signed the initial 27-year contract without prior public consultation.]
Replace the word ‘ those’ with councillors.
Geddit!
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What is ridiculous about believing that councillors should listen to and represent local public opinion?
That’s democracy.
How many people in our town do you think share your contempt for democracy?
And how many people in our town do you think are as indifferent as you are to millions of taxpayers’ money being spent on something we don’t want?
Do you think our kids and grandkids will thank us for all the PFI debt we’ve dumped on them whenever they pass the incinerator?
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