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Saturday 22nd October 2011, 11:49AM BST.
Scrapping cardboard collections in Shropshire could lead to an increase in fly-tipping.
That is the claim from Councillor Mike Owen, cabinet member for waste and recycling at Shropshire Council, who admitted the changes being brought in from the end of next month would cause ‘inconvenience’ for a number of households.
But he said that did not give people the right to dump their cardboard instead of taking it to proper recycling facilities in the county.
He said the authority was disappointed that it was having to axe cardboard collections but said it had no choice because of stringent new industry rules.
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They don’t have to stop collecting cardboard, it just needs to be collected seperately. Where my Mum and Dad live, you get seperate bags for paper and cardboard. Surely the answer is to put cardboard in the paper box or issue another box, not force householders to take the waste to the tip.
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Well said, ph7.
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this has happened to us in the High Peak,Buxton, our council has issued us with a large heavy duty Blue sack to put our cardboard in for curbside collection.
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agreed
put it in with the paper
last time i looked both cardboard and paper are made from wood and are accepted mixed at all paper recyclign mills in the UK
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ill just dump mine at shire hall
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its good for veolia if there is more fly tipping it will give them somthing to justify their incinerator
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its really worrying that they cant even get the basics right at this so called 5 star council they spend so much on policy and strategy and paper pushing management types but they cant even pick up the bins what a sorry state of affairs they must be so badly run its sad really
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In Cambridge a couple of years ago they were given a blue box for cardboard (which was left out with the glass and plastic boxes) but they have now upgraded to blue wheely bins – so it must be cost effective.
Our nearest recycling facility is 8 miles away so if other councils can make kerbside collections pay why not retain them in North Shropshire?
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don’t they earn money from waste cardboard?
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yes its worth between 40 and 100 £ a tonne at the moment and they will have to pay that to have it incinerated in their new multi million pound PFI financed incinerator
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i dont get why they announce now the cut then sit there for another month twiddling their thumbs and then in new year plan a trial so it will take another 6 months to get a card recycling scheme set up
simply do the trial now while the ban is coming in and by the time the ban comes the recycling scheme could be organised to allow for a seamless transition and save landfill and save face for the council and veolia
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i dont think most right minded people will fly tip it to be honest. what i think will happen with 99% of people is they will just put it in the grey bin. the problem then comes when the jobsworth from the council wont empty it because the lid is up by more than 45 degrees
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please can i appeal to the good nature of the people of shrewsbury for the sake of the environment and our quality of life
dont just dump it
dump it on shire hall
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i dont think that is a logical leap
people who want to be green and recycle their card and unlikely to be professional fly-tippers now are they?
no personally i will recycle my cardboard come what may even if i have to take it to telford
the point is that a) most others arent as keen greenies as me and wont bother and b) we shouldnt have to make an effort to recycle the council should be doing the heavy lifting for us so its easy and convenient to go green and not a major chore
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yet again shropshire council = rubbish
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i sometimes think people at the council spend their time tryign to make our lives as awkward as possible. they always want to make it more simple for them but not for us
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My theory is they are all control freaks, who get bullied at home by their spouses, then go to work to dream up “controlling” ideas to make up for their lack at home.
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or they are men with little ones, hey? :)
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dont worry its not a problem see the people at shropshire council are very clever they have got a pfi contract so this negates any risk to the taxpayer all the risk goes to the private contractor (in return for their vast vast profits) so its all on their shoulders so we the taxpayer can relax safe in the knowledge that the contractor will be accountable and responsible for any failings
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I don’t get what the fuss is about. T&W collect cardboard separately, have done for ages.
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just proves recycling is a waste of time might as well put it all in the grey bin
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A disgraceful cut to a front line service. Cut the back office costs not the bin collections. This is all aimed at just saving money. And all just so they can finance a multimillion pound incinerator.
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what are the elderly and disabled supposed to do to get to the recycling centres or those without a car? Has this new policy been rural proofed? Is there a social impact assessment to show they have thought about it? What about the disability discrimination act how is it equal to peopel without a car or limited mobility?
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Where I live in London we put all our recycling in one bag and it is sorted by the collectors.
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sounds like a decent service wish shropshire would do that as its a pain sorting it all out for them and why should we do the work
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so he admits it!
ha
there will be more fly tipping as a result of this cut so it will probably end up costing more than it saves
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what a lot of rot is talked on here
cardboard is neither toxic nor hazardous waste what ever is printed on it it can be recycled or composted quite simply
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all this should have been sorted out months ago not at the last minute panic and just before christmas
if its really important to get it out of the compost then they will have to put on an alternative service or else people will simply not bother to change their ways
thats what i say anyway just ignore them until they give us anothe box/bag or im putting it in my green bin still
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why cant they just collect it with the papers?
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they should regulate or ban these toxic inks at source not make us sort our waste
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this is bonkers
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dont panic. i have the solution. one big pile of cardboard. one box of matches :)
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there is no excuse for illegal and immorale fly tipping and fly tippers should be fined heavily. full stop. end of sentace
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You will obey.
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dont they have a legal duty to stop fly-tipping? if so they could be in breach of their own egislation with this backwards step. they’d have to fine each other for fly-tipping
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All this at a time when the leader of the council says he will not be looking to reintroduce weekly general waste collections while the rest of the country will do just that
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however you dress this up its just a cut to the service to save the council money
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of course theres a choice, there is always options, other councils in england still compost card so why didnt they choose to
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I think there are many good points raised here. Not everyone has room for storage, so a single container for paper/cardboard would make sense. Not everyone has a vehicle to transport cardboard to the tip – what about the carbon footprint of each householder having to do this? Shropshire Council do not collect plastic bags for recycling, they claim it is too expensive, how come supermarkets such as Sainsbury’s are able to do so?
We pay a landfill tax and so Shropshire Council should be encouraging/enabling householders to recycle instead of removing a service.
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Does this mean that if our service (bin collections) gets a cut (cardboard being taken by ourselves) our council tax takes a cut ? It should do or why not ? We still have to pay the same amount and will go up again next year but what about the fuel we have to put in our cars to get to these places and back ? or do we all take the cardboard on public transport or pushbikes as the government wanted us to use to bring down emissions ! it’s a farce and the councils always have bin.
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what is most annoying is that having looked into this on the internet there is no direct ban on composting cardboard at all and some councils are still composting it! It is just shropshire council has over zealously interpreted the composting rules
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