Strikers out across Shropshire

Thursday 30th June 2011, 3:15PM BST.

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PICKET LINES were mounted outside schools, government buildings, jobcentres and courts today by striking public sector workers in the biggest show of industrial action since the 1980s.

Union leaders said early indications were that the 24-hour walkout was being strongly supported – forcing the closure of thousands of schools, courts and offices and disrupting government services and travel.

In Shropshire there was claimed to be “massive” support for the action by both union members and the public.

But a Shropshire teachers’ leader claimed the strike, which has closed or partially closed more than 70 schools across the county, could have been averted.

Members of the National Union of Teachers, Association of Teachers and Lecturers, University and College Union and the Public and Commercial Services union are striking in an increasingly bitter row over plans to increase their pension contributions and raise the retirement age.

Christine Hargest, secretary of the Shropshire NUT said the strike could have been averted on Monday if the Government had “negotiated”. She also warned that taking more money from teachers to pay for pensions would mean less money spent within the Shropshire economy.

Mike Veric, a member of the PCS Midlands executive, said there had been “massive” support in Shropshire for the action.

He said: “I think people are getting the message that the problem with the economy has not been caused by public sector workers but by the banks.”

David Taylor, Shropshire Council director of people’s services, said: “We are continuing to work with schools to provide advice and support and minimise the disruption caused.” Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude said teachers “absolutely don’t” have to strike today, and should not because talks were still ongoing, with another meeting between the Government and trade unions due next week.

He said: “It’s absolutely unjustifiable for parents up and down the country to be inconvenienced like this, forced to lose a day’s work when they’re trying to go out to work to earn money to pay taxes that are going to support teachers’ pensions, which will still, at the end of this, be among the very best pensions available.”

Police leave has been cancelled in London, where thousands of activists will take part in a march, followed by a rally in Westminster. Shadow Cabinet Office minister Tessa Jowell said the Labour Party has a “very clear position” on the dispute.

“The schooling of thousands of children is going to be disrupted today. Those children should be in school, their parents should be able to go to work and both sides in this dispute – Government negotiators and the trade unions – should be round the negotiating table,” she said.

“We’re absolutely with the people of this country who should not have their services disrupted. I’m critical, as Labour is critical, of the way in which the Government has handled this dispute, but these strikes today should not be taking place.”

By Dave Morris


  1. 1
    darren

    ‘Massive support’?????
    Dream on, the people of Shropshire are fed up with disruption, yes the government have not been to fair with cut backs etc but at least you all have jobs and have an income. What about the people who don’t but want to work and would quite willingly do your jobs…
    The unions in this country will be the ruin of this country.

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    • jonny barret

      darren – there are lots of people who would like to do teachers jobs but not many are actually qualified, they dont do the job for charity do they, they are professionals!!

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    • john

      No,the Coalition will be the ruin of this country.
      Where is your evidence that Shropshire is fed up with disruption?

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      • darren

        ask the public on the street they will tell you straight…
        look if the people who strike don’t like the way things are bein handled in the public sector then don’t work in it. get a job in the private sector. it’s not rocket science is it. people get to cosy behind their desks in plush civil service and public sector offices.

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        • sus

          Darren -teachers hardly sit at desks. They spend most of their time standing up teaching close to 150 students per day in a classroom. I don’t think you should be using the collective term ‘public sector’ when you clearly don’t understand.

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        • Anyothers

          Yeah they all sit behind desks, those that deliver babies for instance, those that look after and treat cancer patients yes those that work in the health service along with those that work in the other services, police, firemen and ambulance all are under the same rubbish from this goverment all are professionals/qualified if they all up and left, i am sure those jobs can just be filled by those that want to work but would willing do those jobs, with no workers rights or protections, something this goverment champion abroad but detest it here.

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        • THE LORD

          Bit Of A DRAMA QUEEN ANYOTHERS.

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  2. 2
    spencer

    Only one teacher on strike at my kids schools.
    Must be very lonely on the picket line.

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    • Peter

      Not all the teachers’ unions are taking part – I believe others are to be balloted for the Autumn.

      It may be that your kids’ school is largely staffed by those that choose to be in other unions, or indeed none at all.

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    • Tink

      Then I think that one teacher is extremely brave to go against the grain like that.

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    • ph7

      Not all the Teachers unions were on strike, only the NUT and the ATL. The NASUWT, the Headteachers union and in Scotland the EIS were at work. School support staff, in UNISON and the GMB did not strike. It appears that, at last the government have realised that the local government pension scheme is not the same as that of the teachers and civil servants however, the other unions are holding their fire and in Shropshire UNISON is likely to go on strike locally due to Shropshire Council’s raid on terms and conditions. Today’s strike was only the starter, the main course is still to come.

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    red ed

    First they came after pensions what next cuts in police good times for burgulars thats why they want a law change as soon the police will be cut as will our busses librarys hospitals where will it end .

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    • Never Again!

      Labour did it big style by crashing the whole economy………

      Never forget that a Labour Government built up this huge debt with no regard for the pensions and job security of public sector workers.

      The Tories are only clearing up the mess so we all have a secure future.

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      • cablescavenger

        You will find it was wreckless lending by Banks, Primarily in the US, followed by the collapse of American property securitisation debt (Commonly called self cert mortgages) that triggered the worldwide recession.

        Not the Labour Govt.

        The Tories are merely reacting in a manner they hope will pull us out of this problem.

        Personally I would prefer they showed their intentions by prosecuting some of the prepetrators of this huge fraud.

        Instead of telling people who believe everything they hear that Labour caused it.

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      • Peter

        ‘Never Again’ can I suggest that you ‘never again’ read the Tory tabloid comics who feed you this nonsense?
        50% or so of our current debt was caused directly by irresponsible lending and the greed of our financial institutions – the same financial institutions, incidentally, who provide more than 50% of the Tory party’s finances.

        Whether or not you include the banks’ share of our debt as truly part of our debt, the debt we have, expressed as a percentage of GDP is a very long way from the highest debt ever inherited by a government – so whay are the current unelected coalition behaving in the way that they are?

        The answer is simple – to protect the rich. Has anyone seen a schedule of repayments from the banks for these ‘loans’ we gave them? No – me neither. Instead, we are seeing a wholesale, ideologically-driven attack on our public services (as if they were to blame), whilst more tax loopholes for the very wealthy are opened up.

        Don’t imagine for a moment that there will be tax cuts for ordinary people when the debt is paid off – the government have already indicated that their priority in terms of tax-cutting is a removal of the top tax rate of 50% and a reduction in Corporation Tax – neither of which will filter down to ordinary working people.

        But what baffles me most is this: the willingness of ordinary workers to lay the blame at the door of other groups of ordinary workers. I have great sympathy for those in the private sector whose greedy employers underfunded their pension schemes when the going was good, and subsequently closed those schemes, but what do you gain from forcing that misfortune on other workers, whether private or public sector?

        And where were you when your employers were deliberately undermining your pensions? – why were you not organising and protesting, rather than spitefully envying those that are protesting now?

        And before any Tory supporter trots out the myth that Brown ‘raided’ these schemes, he didn’t. He simply stopped giving tax relief on company contributions, principally becuase they were no longer contributing, and so had no need for tax relief!

        It might surprise some of you to know that more money is spent each year on tax relief for individual private pension schemes than is spent on the entire public sector pension provision.

        We can afford to continue funding the very modest public sectior pensions we provide (typically only £7000 per annum on average). Changes were made a few years ago to reduce the long-term cost of these and the costs are due to reduce as the workforce get older, despire the lies Francis Maude was caught out telling on Radio 4 last week.

        We’ve yet to see the massive job losses to be caused by the government’s cuts – with half a million expected in each of the public and private sectors. These will surely drive us formally back into recession. Even their own ministers admit that as a direct consequence of their policies tens of thousands of people will be made homeless.

        It’s time to leave the Sun and the Daily Mail behind, and wake up to what this government are about, and where their interests truly lie.

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    jeffb

    Plenty of cuts by the Government on the working people, no cuts in MP’s expenses and numbers in the Houses of Lords and Parliament, all claiming massive expenses and pay, And what about the holidays they all get with full pay, and all the perks they get paying no VAT.etc. 830 members in the house of lords + 650members in the house of commons. Do we really need all these free-loaders?

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    mint

    The public sector have lived off the fat of the land since the 60s now its their turn to take the medicene the Shropshire taxpayers have little sympathy they are all subsidised by our taxes and get pensions we only dream about

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    Daniel

    “‘Massive support’?????
    Dream on, the people of Shropshire are fed up with disruption, yes the government have not been to fair with cut backs etc but at least you all have jobs and have an income. What about the people who don’t but want to work and would quite willingly do your jobs…
    The unions in this country will be the ruin of this country.”

    You need to look at the whole picture, this just isn’t about the fact we have a job or we want more money, this is affecting our retirement. Did you not know, the government are trying to force through a law that anyone who was born after a certain year, will not get a state pension! So if we do not sort out our pension, we could end up living on fresh air. You need to look at the bigger picture. I would have loved to be in work today, but the Government need to see that they can’t get their own way all the time and they need to look after the people that administer the benefits, do all the menial jobs these so called MP’s don’t want to do. I bet the MP’s pension pots will still be a nice figure, but noone thinks about that! Maybe before you make a comment like that, you should look at the wider picture and open your mind and stop being on a one lane track!

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    • darren

      ok i need to open my mind apparently, so lets see.
      i work full time but oh dear my childs school is shut becuase of the strikes, i can’t book the day off because it’s too short notice and no one can look after my child. so what do i do, pull a sicky, take my child to work with me. OR…
      i had to take an urgent form to court today but when i go their the court was closed becuase of the strikes, now i missed the deadline and i now face a whole load of stress and dispair.
      so there you go i opened my mind…. to real effects this waste of time strikes causes. those two examples are from people on the street, the public. so if you call that a one lane track then i would hate to think what your like in the egg and spoon race?

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      • Peter

        So Darren – if all is so simple and well-rewarded on the other side of the fence, why have you not applied for public sector jobs?

        Perhaps it’s something to do with your spelling?

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  7. 7
    Strikebreaker

    lets hope they crush these teachers now

    they are all over paid over holidayed lazy loony lefty labour voters – crush them all cameron, you will become a legend, and go down in the annals of civilisation with thatcher as a real man who sorted this country out, in years to come i pray for a day when teachers are cheaper, more obedient and less of a burden on our state

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    jonny barret

    i think people need to get real, there is a shortage of teachers in the uk and each year they have to run golden handshakes and all sorts to get people in, to cut the pensions now is long term lunacy there is not an army of people ready to take over you need 4 years at uni to get a degree then a post grad teaching cert, even then you need years of practice to get onto senior grades etc

    these people deserve every penny they get, they add billions to our gdp each year creating wealth paying tax and moving our country forwards

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    • JOHN JONES

      jonny. In 1976 when the factory that I worked in closed, about 50% of the draughtsman went to teacher training college for only one year to become teachers and some ended up as “Head of Department”, Non of them had a degree,and worked in local schools till they retired.

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    mick

    May heart bleeds for them…..welcome to the real world.
    We in the private sector have it like this all time. Far to long the public sector have had it easy. Well the gravy train your on is shuddering to halt.
    We didnt hear you lot whinging while industry, banking and manufacturing were all having jobs and pensions slashed.

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    • Garry Nicholson

      At last – the standard ‘welcome to the real world’ cliche response from the oh-so-world-weary private sector representative.
      Had it like this all the time? Well, what are you going to do about it? No, seriously, what are you going to do about it? Carry on moaning?

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    sparky mark

    ive worked in a goverment buildings,and these civil servants get treated like kids ,they get what ever they ask for,sack the lot of them,,,,,they dont serve us at all,,,,,,,

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    • julian

      Teachers are useful for showing our children helpful skills like English grammar. You know, how to use apostrophes, where to put commas, that sort of thing.

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  11. 11
    sophie

    sack all of them ,especially the teachers,they have good wages and all them holidays ,try a real job

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    • julian

      All “those” holidays. I’m guessing it wasn’t just English you failed at school. Sacking all the teachers and public sector workers would plunge this country into an economic crisis that would make Greece look like a member of the G8.

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    Chris Toms

    Both my parents were teachers.My father was principal of Shropshire Council Adult Education Colleage at Attingham Hall.The Conservative Government and Shropshire are Council Cabinet pitting the private sector against the public sector.The Labour Party appalling stance on Unions shred any of their credibility of standing up for people.It is
    Unions whom are campaigning for people on low income,disabilities,pensioners.

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  13. 13
    true blue

    Sheer socialist scum! they would sell this country out to the russians in minutes just to keep their pension, you cannot trust them, they are unbritish, lock them up and throw away the key, only a conservative government can be trusted to run this country patriotically and that means standing up to the unions

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    • Mike

      Russia communist get real true blue they are now a capitalist state in reality! get rid of the royal scroungers and David Camerloon and get some real government again.

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  14. 14
    John

    The unions are nothing more than communists.

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    BamBam

    I understand that the public is angry with these strikes and I also understand how you feel about unions and how they really put the organization first. I have never been a union person, but my job forces me to be in one. I truly believe that you get out what you put in with no handouts and I respect that there are many people that would do these jobs and not complain.

    However one must realize that your government will keep pushing and taking what they want until someone stands up to them, hence the union. In a society that tells us to save for the future cos there will be no pension when we retire, are the same ones that are trying to screw you when you do.

    Your government is screwing you with every penny that you earn. Your tax is almost the highest in the world per capita. Your contribution to the E.U. is also one of the highest and you are lowest recipients of funding from this organization.

    Having left the UK several years ago and experienced life elsewhere, I realize how good I have it now and would never return as it is too expensive to live there and the benefits are very few.

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  16. 16
    Anti EU

    we must never never never surrender to the left, they will ruin this country, we must fight them to the death

    How about organising a protest for hard working self employed people who dont want to pay pensions for layabouts?

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  17. 17
    Kath

    Sack all the teachers? Well, reading most of these comments I think we might as well. After all, if they haven’t raised all these IQs above room temperature, what’s the point?

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    Sue

    Some of the people who have commented on this must think that teachers are only at school while the children are there. You obviously don’t realise that teaching isn’t an 9-3 job. They get paid for about six hours but are actually in school for nearer to twelve hours when you include any after school clubs, meetings, marking and planning for the following day.
    A large amount of school holidays are spent in preparation for the next term. The pay per hour can work out at less than minimum wage. Not to mention the amount of stress and pressure teachers can experience from unruly children, rude (sometimes violent) parents, school management teams, governors, OFSTED inspections etc.
    I seriously doubt that any of you people who think it’s a cushy job would be able to handle it.

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    • THE LORD

      oh my god it gets better and better, please you are damaging the teaching profession with your support. unruly children, rude (sometimes violent) parents,Not Acceptable All would agree

      school management teams, governors, OFSTED inspections etc. The nerve of them !! it is however called being answerable to your employer and the other arms related to them.

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    Kath

    Sue, they wouldn’t last till morning break.

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    BamBam

    Well said Sue, but you know they won’t agree with you as in their eyes “the teacher is the devil”, overpaid, underworked, with all this time off, it can’t possible be a real job. Little do they know that 40% of graduating teachers leave the profession in their first year. But of course they could do the job and probably do it better than everyone else.

    Its a good job we can laugh

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    • THE LORD

      Excellent point well made ,but and it is a big but I have yet to meet a teacher who does not work harder than anyone else on the planet, and can do any job on the planet, as for 40%leave for what reason??? bet it falls in your favor on that count also .
      Perhaps it is you just cant fool everyone all the time ?.
      People in general have no issue with the holidays, how many hours you work etc etc in general they have an issue with your pensions and retirement it is la la land to assume everyone should be brought in line with you it is not only costly but it is not sustainable .
      Deals need to be done, new ones which are fair to teachers and to everyone else but mainly based on if you wish to retire before anyone else in our society you pay extra for that privilege , working in the public sector or being a teacher for that matter should not give you that luxury as a right .
      As has been said all teachers do the job for the love of it if they do it for the money and they wish to have more then they get more qualifications and enter the private sector or learn a trade you do not see many self employed builders or carpenters or plumbers worrying about pensions etc we all in general earn good money and can pay to call it a day earlier than many it boils down to work and money and self responsibility.

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    winja

    The current leader of the Labour Party has some erudite, insightful, and deep thoughts on the subject of the current strikes:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13971770

    He’s the best Labour leader for years, is Ed. I think he’s great. Long may he reign.

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  22. 22
    winja

    Oh.

    I may have missed much sniggering and chortling in my #19 comment BTW……..

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  23. 23
    Kath

    Ed Milliband should be ejected from the Labour party forthwith for instructing MPs – or anyone – to cross an official picket line.

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    • THE LORD

      ANY one has the right to cross a picket line if not a union member, in fact ANY one has the right to cross a picket line in a free country if they so wish .Good to see labour is getting a bit of blair back bone again.

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      • Kath

        Of course people have the *right* to cross a picket line. I’m talking about private members’ clubs – Labour party or union – where a person can and should be removed from membership if they violate basic principles of the organisation.

        If Labour is getting a ‘blue backbone’ to this extent, they might as well throw in the towel and call themselves ‘New Tories’.

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    Al

    What strike? Blinked and missed it for all the impact it had on anyone I know with kids!

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