Wonders of the Universe – Telly Talk
Monday 7th March 2011, 11:25AM GMT.
Telly Talk: A bright star shone out last night and was seen in the darkness by millions of people around the country. Yes, he’s certainly doing well for himself, that Professor Brian Cox.
Sunday saw the beginning of the professor’s latest jaunt around the heavens, a follow-up to the hugely popular Wonders of the Solar System.
Cox, who looks like he should be playing bass in a mid-nineties indie band, is billed as having the knack of taking hugely complex subjects and making them accessible to the ordinary man (or woman) in the street.
That seems a fair enough description. The professor’s brain (massivus organus) is several times more intelligent than mine (thickus twoshortplanksus) but I think I understood what he was saying about the course of universal events and the very nature of time.
In the universe, everything is changing, and the change is irreversable, he explained while visiting Patagonia and Namibia (as you do). He went on to show us a star that exploded shortly after the universe began – like, a really long time ago – and explained how its light takes four light years to reach the earth. We are, he said, looking back towards the beginning of time.
As our heads span like a far-off planet, he went on to explain the second law of thermodynamics, the law of entropy, which governs the universe. It says that everything decays and moves from order to disorder, and that nothing stays the same. To show how this works he sat on a sand dune in some far-off former mining town now being reclaimed by the desert and built a sand castle.
The sand castle has low entropy because even a slight change to its structure will cause it to decay; but the sand around it has high entropy because you can change the position of the grains in a sand dune without changing the structure. Our universe runs in much the same way. Everything decays, be it quickly, like one of the houses in the town, or slowly, like the suns in the universe.
Got that? Yes, I think so, and then he went on to show us how our sun will eventually collapse into itself, as will all the stars in the universe, until, in trillions of years, there is nothing. Makes you wonder why we’re bothering, really. Everything we do, everything we fight for, create, and love, will eventually be destroyed by the very sun that gives us life in the first place.
We’ve got another three weeks of this to come.
I just hope my poor, distinctly average brain can take it all in.
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the most ore inspiring peace of television i have ever seen, in response to the previous comment about how depressing it was you have clearly missed the point of the whole thing, understanding that we are part of somthing so amazing and epic, and how unlikley we are to have ever exisited atall is the point.
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I’m confused by this sand castle analogy.
If things that can me moved around without affecting its structure is considered to have high entropy, how can the arrow of time be forcing low->high entropy decay in the universe?
Take the gaseous object just after the big bang, you could swirl it around, mix it up and its structure would not have change much, just like the pile of sand, if you do that to the universe now we would all die (the sand castle would be destroyed)!
Ergo, back in time the universe had a higher entropy, now it has lower entropy as things are more ordered, there are stars, planets, life.
The accretion disc our solar system was formed by had high entropy, it could be messed about with and the structure wouldn’t change much, as did happen with the chaos of collisions, the formation of the moon etc.. , do that now and we would die!
Therefore our solar system had a higher entropy back in time than it does now, which seems to imply the arrow of time regarding entropy is going in the opposite direction to what you said on the program?
Gas has a higher entropy than a solid, ergo a gaseous object has higher entropy than a solid object, ergo the universe had higher entropy than it does now, as there is less gas and more solid!
Ergo I’m confused, as your sand castle analogy makes no sense what so ever to me?
Hope you can clear this up.
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Has anyone got Professor Brian Cox’s email address?
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The reason sand on a beach is entropic is not simply because you can swirl it about. Its entropic because its not in any type of order. Its just a jumbled about mess. Entropy is a measure of disorder not just at the superficial level, but at the microscopic level. At that level sand is a mess. When you build a sandcastle you’re creating less entropy for the sand in the sandcastle, yes. But if you look at the entire beach as a system (remembering that entropy is measured as a closed system) you’re actually not reducing entropy at all for the beach. You’ve ordered a piece of it by gouging out whole sections of the other. Then, as the castle falls apart, even it loses what order you put into it. Of course, the beach isn’t a closed system. Its part of the universe, which started out as a very, very organized place, many fewer orders of magnitude less disorganized than that pile of sand. That almost perfect order has slowly disintegrated into the clumpy, chaotic mess the universe is today. As the first stars and planets formed, the bodies themselves may have seemed more ordered but that was at the cost of the system as a whole. It was now irreconcilably less ordered at that microscopic level than before, with much of space mostly empty and much of the mass/energy crowded together into isolated bodies. And even those clumps will fall apart given trillions of years. When they do, they won’t fall apart into the perfect order in which they began at the very start of the universe. We’ll never get that perfect order back. As a system, the universe simply loses order.
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Well that’s if the reverse thinking of professor Hawkins and the ‘Big Crunch’ is correct.
Or that dark energy accelerating the expansion of the universe wins over gravity, which again is still debateable.
Or that reality isn’t a holographic projection from a two dimensioal edge of space
Or whether black wholes do disapate, but if they do where does the energy they swallowed up go?
Can energy be lost/destroyed or not?
Will supper , super , super massive blacks wholes merge to create a singularity from which a big bang will occur?
I’m not sure at the point of the big bang, it was more ordered, it was total chaos as matter and antimatter destroyed each other, hense looking for the Higgs Boson.
We are made up of a fraction of the aftermatch of the chaos , and it’s still not known what really caused the ‘inflation’ of the universe.
persoanlly I see more order in the universe now , than suposedly earlier in time, but maybe that’s the problem , it’s down to perception.
However, without order, it’s generally accepted life cannot exist.
And there certainly more life in the universe than just after the big bang.
I accept everything decays through radiation, that’s how we carbon date things.
I just can’t grasp the point trying to be made with this sand castle!
Shame, as I really enjoy Brian Cox’s programs, as well as Jim Al-Khalili
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no, but i wish i did, he is gorgeous!!!!
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Missed it on sunday night, in bed with flu, but thankfully it is on again tonight(tuesday) at 7.00pm.
I find Brian Cox fascining to watch/listen to even if I don’t understand a lot of what he says, he is afterall on a higher plain than me and I think is brillient and nobody will ever know if he is right or wrong, afterall how many times has it been predicted that the world would end next friday and it has’nt happened yet and when it does non of us will be here to see it.
Roll on 7.00pm.
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