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The Third Place, Shrewsbury
Tuesday 29th November 2011, 11:02AM GMT.
Rating: *** Andy Richardson enjoys the lively atmosphere but is indifferent to the food at an Indian restaurant opposite Shrewsbury’s Theatre Severn.
If restaurants are all about location, location, location; then The Third Place hit the jackpot on the day that Theatre Severn was opened by the Earl of Wessex.
The £28 million Shrewsbury arts complex brought new trade to a previously-quiet area of Shropshire and coincided with developments by others along the banks of the River Severn.
In the heady days that have followed, the immediate surrounds have welcomed a decent Italian restaurant, Romolo, as well as a new boutique hotel-cum-restaurant, The Silverton, which is itself a spin-off from the excellent tapas and cocktail bar, Frank, on Welsh Bridge.
New restaurants and bars ought to be enjoying a mini-gold rush as they cater to the numerous leisure visitors to the area around the Welsh Bridge, Frankwell and their hinterland.
Since May 2009, tens of thousands of people have poured into the area with many seeking food and libation prior to curtain up at the Theatre. The Third Place was as well placed as any to cash in given its perfect location, directly opposite Theatre Severn.
With a weeknight opening time of 5.30pm, it caters to the theatre crowd – people can go straight from work for dinner, relax over a tempting bhoona and then watch the comedian/psychic/theatre/musician of their choice.
Perhaps inspired by the money invested in the region, The Third Place has undergone an impressive renovation. A cluttered waiting area, which had been reminiscent of a taxi cab’s waiting room, has been ditched as part of the make-over and The Third Place now accommodates a greater number of tables.
Wood laminate floors, mirrors, cream and burgundy walls and an uncluttered dining area make for a welcoming area in which to eat.
On the Saturday that my friend and I visited, it was pretty much full to capacity. It had a no-frills, unpretentious cafe-vibe, with diners being happy to sit pretty close to others.
Few customers appeared to be discomforted by the close proximity of their neighbours. There were couples young and old, families, groups of friends and those who seemed to be catching up for a reunion.
The service was fast; plates were ferried out by smartly-attired waiters in modish black shirts and red ties who quickly scurried back to the kitchens to pick up more food.
The window that looked through into the kitchen was like a portal giving a glimpse of another world – it was fast-paced, busy and the cooks were in constant motion.
So far so good. And so to dinner. The menu features the usual selection of Indian favourites, with korai, balti, tandoori, dupiaza, bhoona, rogan josh, pathia, korma, Malayan, biryani and numerous chef recommendations, including Bangladeshi specialities like shaktora, which features citrus fruit.
My partner and I were in the mood to eat our favourites, rather than trip the light fantastic by ordering the small number of dishes that we’d not previously encountered.
And so we started with a platter of poppadoms with their regulation dips. It was an inauspicious start. The pappadoms were deliciously crisp, but much too greasy. Their taste was spoiled by the excess of oil.
We ordered onion bhaji and chicken chaat, and found ourselves similarly non-plussed by the mediocrity of the food. The bhaji wasn’t as crisp or delicately flavoured as it might have been and the chaat was underwhelming. It lacked spice, it lacked pizzazz and it lacked punch.
Though the conversation flowed, we were underwhelmed by the food. It was bland and lacked any spark; certain dishes were too greasy. We steeled ourselves for our main courses.
My partner had chosen a chicken dupiaza and I went for a chicken korma, with rice and naan.
Unfortunately, neither provided the ‘wow’ factor that we’d been hoping for. The korma was thin and watery, the sauce having a milky consistency rather than a thick, unctuous coconut-ey texture. It’s flavour was also insipid and uninspired.
The dupiaza was also dull; the flavours didn’t zing and zang – to be truthful, it didn’t taste as good as a jar from Loyd Grossman. We skipped dessert.
In its defence, The Third Place seemed to view itself as being a cafe, rather than a restaurant aiming to thrill gourmands. The food was inexpensive: it was offering a three-course Sunday special that came in at a bargain basement £8.95 and most curries cost between £5 and £6.
But these low prices don’t necessarily mean it’s good value – the food needs to taste good too.
In a recent interview, the fiery chef Marco Pierre White said he thought the most important ingredient in any restaurant was atmosphere.
He suggested that people would put up with indifferent food if they were eating it in convivial surrounds and enjoying their night.
Our experience at The Third Place bore testimony to Marco’s gospel. There wasn’t a single course that would have made us go back for more; by the end of the evening we were pretty indifferent to the food that had passed before us.
But there was an undeniable buzz to the place. The waiters were charming and efficient, we enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere and it was a pleasant experience to eat there.
It’s little wonder that The Third Place has done so well since Theatre Severn opened. It’s food isn’t the best, unfortunately, it lacks flavour and style, but it’s created a wonderful environment with cheap-as-chips prices and, for now, it seems to work.
ADDRESS
The Third Place, 135 Frankwell, Shrewsbury SY3 8RJ
Tel: 01743 272041/272042
Web: www.thirdplaceindian.com
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I read with great interest, and some confusion, Andy Richards views on the 3rd Place. Was this really the same restaurant my friends and I have come to love?
Whether Andy timed his visit on a particularly busy night, or picked particularly bland dishes from the excellent menu, I am not sure for my experience of this friendly eating house bears no relation to his.
As a frequent, and somewhat demanding, consumer of curry dishes I have frequented most of the curry houses in Shrewsbury in search of vibrant and spicy dishes at sensible prices to equal those found in major cities such as Birmingham and London.
Up until a few months ago the Cafe Safron, just off Barker Street was considered by my friends head a shoulders above most Indian eating houses inside the Bridges – until we tried the third place!
I have never had an indifferent meal at the 3rd Place, found the dishes to be lacking in flavour, or [unusually] being treated to an excess of oil with my food.
I’d suggest to Andy that he returns on a less busy night, selects an authentic dish [not an extra mild curry designed for wimps and babes in arms] and then report back.
Whilst I still think the Cafe Safron heads the curry league in Shrewsbury there’s no doubt that the 3rd Place can, and often does, give them a serious run for their money. But don’t take my word for it, try the 3rd Place for yourself – but maybe not when it is overrun by theater goers seeking a quick nosh.
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Irving,
I have read your comment and it seems your argument is fundamentally flawed dear fellow.
You say that until you tried the Third Place you considered Cafe Saffron to be a producer of Ruby Murry that was head and shoulders above most others within the bridges…now i know i am being presumptive (and that is the mother of all **** ups) but i take it the bridges you refer to are the English and Welsh. Therefore old chap, due to the location of the Third Place being Frankwell and outside “the bridges” it should theoretically rule it from your argument!!
Before anybody says anything I know this is a rather silly comment but i am bored at work and it has kept me entertained on my lunch break writing this!!!
As for Andy Richardson, he should realise that the places he reviews in this county other than his favoured Ludlow haunts are not Michellin starred eateries and he is not writing for the good food guide or The Times. By the way I have read far less pompous authors in both publications!!! Each place should be reviewed on its own merits and based on who its true client base is…not reviewed on a wannabe food critic’s ideals for fine dining. Just a thought!
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So you didn’t like any of the food you or your ‘friend’ ate and it still gets 3/5? Does this mean that you award up to 3 stars for atmosphere and a maximum of 2 for the food? How bizarre for a restaurant critic.
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“But that low prices don’t mean it’s good value”
Is the use of decent grammar too much to ask for in a review?
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Well spotted, now corrected.
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The Third Place is great. Their takeaways are even better. You can sample two main courses together which makes for a much more interesting meal and you can experiment.
And could the Shropshire Star please put a limit on the length of reviews. What we need is a neat critique, not inflated waffle. We’re interested in the eating place, not the writer’s ego.
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Have always found The Third Place to be the best curry house in shrewsbury. Tasty food and lovely staff. Stop your waffle Mr Reviewer!
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I’m quite amazed that people actually go to these “cafes”, and pay good money to eat there.
I once worked with an Indian auto-electrician and his Uncle owned about 6 of these places in the Birmingham area.
His Uncles description of them was that they were licences to print money. My friend was having guests to dinner one night, and his wife was cooking “genuine” Indian food at 1-00pm.
The stuff you get in these cheap places is basic ingredients laced with curry powder or spices. Indian food it is not.
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I have eaten indian food for over fourty years,my first meal being in the Shiraz,Wyle Cop and have eaton in India in a number of hotels,therefore feel qualified to comment on the Third Place.In my view the food there and Cafe Saffron are the best in Shrewsbury.
The food in India is quite different to that served up in this country and I am conditioned to preferring the latter.
I have eaton at the Third Place on various occasions and chose it to take a large group in preference to another well established restaurant they had previously gone to,all were pleased with my change of venue.
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Well,
What can i say you reviewed this restaurant and you chose korma for a main course !!! (hot yogurt basically) some expert ! out of all the the lovely spices you can get in indian food YOU KNOW NOTHING, ignore this review 3rd place is fine !
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The reviewer said the food was bland and yet he ordered a CHICKEN korma. Wow, you is adventerous mate.
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More reason not to trust pompous ‘critics’, the food there is spot on
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