Accidents will happen – it’s about bad drivers, not traffic islands

Another entry for my book of ‘least surprising news announcements of all time’ (I don’t expect it to be a big seller, if I’m honest): it seems putting traffic lights on a roundabout doesn’t do very much at all to reduce the number of accidents.

Dave Burrows

Another entry for my book of ‘least surprising news announcements of all time’ (I don’t expect it to be a big seller, if I’m honest): it seems putting traffic lights on a roundabout doesn’t do very much at all to reduce the number of accidents writes Dave Burrows.

A report by the Highways Agency has revealed that accident numbers on the Emstrey and Dobbies islands in Shrewsbury are not significantly different from before the lights were installed.

It’s almost like, oh I don’t know, traffic islands and traffic lights serve the same purpose. It’s as though one is some kind of alternative to the other, and that both aren’t needed in the same place. I mean, I’m only looking at it from the outside, but I’m just saying that’s how it appears.

The Highways Agency said there were 14 accidents at the Emstrey roundabout between 2006 and lights being installed in 2009, and 10 between June 2009 and June 2011. I’ll help you out. That’s down by four. But over a shorter period. So, there’s still time, eh?

At Dobbies there were 21 accidents between 2005 and 2008, and 11 between 2008 and 2011. Fair dos, that’s a decent reduction, but it’s hardly setting the world alight now, is it?

Now, it appears that the powers that be want to make further changes at Emstrey because of ‘safety concerns’.

The problem, it seems, is that the lanes are too narrow, especially for lorries.

Now things have changed since I learned to drive. For one thing, cars don’t have that crank handle on the front any more. Or a bloke walking in front of them with a flag (has anyone considered re-introducing this as a way of lowering accident figures? I might start a Number 10 petition).

But when I was taking my driving lessons, roundabouts had two lanes - the left-hand lane was for (surprisingly) turning left. It was also for going straight on. The right-hand lane (you’re ahead of me, aren’t you?) was for turning right.

Emstrey has three lanes. So is it really that surprising that people think they are too narrow? Just put it back to two. Again, no civil engineer, me. I’m probably missing something.

The biggest problem that I’ve experienced on Emstrey (and given that I use it almost every day, I think I’m qualified to comment) is that some drivers either don’t understand, or don’t give two hoots about, the layout of the island. Some seem to struggle with the concept of a left-hand lane to turn left, a right-hand lane to turn right and a middle lane to go straight on. I admit, it’s confusing.

Others simply believe they can get in the wrong lane and out-accelerate the car inside them so they can overtake, saving themselves valuable minutes. Sorry, did I say minutes. I meant seconds.

Sadly, nothing can be done about these sets of people. They are both idiots. Fortunately they are in the vast minority. Most of us road-users know how to drive round a roundabout. We learn it quite early on. Which is why we know they don’t need traffic lights.

Comments for: "Accidents will happen – it’s about bad drivers, not traffic islands"

GB

It doesn't help to stop people getting confused, however, when on the approaches from Atcham, and coming from Shrewsbury past the Crematorium you reach the roundabout to be presented with a choice of two lanes, each with an arrow painted on the road pointing straight ahead.

RM

Very True GB!

I think also if you were coming from Dobbies (towards Telford) it would be helpful to re-paint the lines so they're more visible. I think that would solve alot of the issues.

Quite alot of cars that go straight over tend to start in the left hand lane (which is perfectly acceptable on that island) but they then drift across into the middle then back to the left hand lane cutting people up in the process. Or the opposite, if you are in the outside lane (which would take you all the way round to the right down towards Salop Caravans etc) I notice cars think this lane will take you towards the A5 they then struggle to get across when they realise they needed to be in the middle, or left hand lane.

Maybe it is because it goes from a two lane dual carriage way, to a 3 lane roundabout, then essentially back to 2 lanes.

I guess you just haveto watch.

Roger

Traffic lights are the last resort of any road design. More than two thirds of the time they are at red or amber or changing causing delays and reducing the traffic capacity.

Roundabouts are always better if possible unless Pedestrians need to cross the flows frequently; the road configuration makes a roundabout impractical. Traffic lights on roundabouts are only required to control traffic in heavy usage or pedestrian crossing is required, and should always be part time.

Traffic light operation is the major problem in Shrewsbury. Two way traffic for straight on mode seems to have been abolished? Strange! And the timings seem to have been lost. Are they self adaptive according to traffic flow or has that been switched off?

Both islands discussed have more than four entrances/exits and I would add Meole Brace and Trench Lock. In all cases the design of the traffic flows is too complex; they do not follow the standard rules because of the number of entries so cause confusion. For stranger, he has seconds to solve the conundrum of the lay out which can not all be seen whilst observing the light with the compulsion to commit when the light turn green. When you might have just discovered you are in the wrong lane waiting. The answer is better design for simplicity and standard rules with part time lights as first option if lights required.

The Original Jake

Very well put.

mistydreamer

The control freaks in highways don't like part time lights...

"you must obey...always!!!!!"..."exterminate, exterminate!!"