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Letter: Time for a real rail revamp
Monday 29th March 2010, 9:49AM BST.
Letter: Lord Adonis announces a high speed rail link to be built by 2015. Big deal.
What is the obsession with high speed trains by people in positions of power who clearly have no vision of the real future needs of this country.
What we need is a new rail network with higher capacity. Double width, double height, the jumbo jets of the rail network, capable of carrying containers side by side and stacked two up the length and breadth of the country along with perhaps thousands of passengers at a time.
The current system is still based on the size of two horses side by side pulling a cart, which was what everyone was using when railways were invented so it seemed a logical design.
Our roads too are based on two horses pulling a Roman chariot. We have moved on, the rail system hasn’t. Focusing only on speeding up just a single line is about as good as putting a Jaguar engine in a Morris Minor, quicker but still low capacity therefore useful to only a few people.
It reminds me of Concorde. This needs to be an all-party effort so that no matter which party governs the country the project carries on. The long-term benefits are clear: Reduced congestion on the roads, reduced maintenance need- ed for the roads, lower traffic volume on the roads so reduced pollution.
Do a really great job and make travel on rail affordable too; it’s still cheaper to hire a chauffeur-driven luxury minibus to take you and your family to London and back than to take the train.
Michael Wilkinson
Ketley
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Let me be amongst the first to correct Mr Wilkinson’s error-ridden diatribe. Starting with his final piece of fiction, my family of two adults and two children can make a return trip to London from just £52.20, find me a chauffer-driven luxury bus cheaper than that Mr Wilkinson. Better still check the costs out yourself via the Wrexham and Shropshire Railway website link conveniently placed on the Shropshire Star home page and learn that it pays to check your facts before going to print. In fact, read some decent reports about the case for HS2 too while you’re at it and save me the time of educating you.
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It is a thousand pities Michael Wilkinson that there are not more like you with your mindset in the positions of leadership in this Country and perhaps more to the point present at the time when the Beeching’s and the Marple’s were doing their damnedest to shut down the British Rail infrastructure to satisfy their vested interests. There was a deliberate and planned period of Asset stripping and Neglect as a precurser to this policy of Greed and Profit and the results are now evident! .. High cost and Gridlock. European Countries have left Britain far behind in the efficient use of Rail Infrastructure but the time has got to come when Britain will have to reclaim that which it once had.
The Road Building and Road Haulage Industries have for too long pointed Britain in a direction that is fueled more by greed and vested interest than an efficient and economical need for Payload Haulage and Passenger Transport.
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i think if you consult the railway history books, isambard kingdom brunel thought of this and was out voted by the 4ft 8 and half inch brigade. i might say brunel was right then, has been proved right since and certainly would have had no truck with novices like lord adonut
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Michael makes some good points about issues of scale but he misses the most fundamental point: that continued expansion of the economy and, more crucially, population are unsustainable and ruinous.
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Think of all the existing bridges which carry roads, canals etc over the rails, a significant number would need to be demolished and replaced, as they are too low for double decker trains similar to those used in Europe. The cost and disruption would be enormous.
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Nothing matters like BA these morons will go on strike after listening to the millitant clap trap from the unions . The train service is on par of what you get in india apart from we are not hanging off the sides, dont throw good money after bad .
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We should all be using teleportation. Now that’s real progress.
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Brunel had it right all along.
Simple mathemetics, scale it up to double the size, carry eight times the cargo.
Ever tried travelling in a Virgin Voyager?
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Andrew – And what militant clap trap is this?
Is bullying from BA Management acceptable to you then?
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Nice idea on paper – shame about physics, economics and the NIMBY green lobby.
You could not rebuild the existing railways without causing major disruption. Disruption = cost = unhappy people.
Most of the world uses 4 ft 81/2 as track gauge. Changing would make us unique = cost = unhappy taxpayers.
New rail lines need land. Land near urban areas is expensive and you have to compensate for loss of amenity, for noise, for disruption etc. Every man, woman and child will object to a proposed line near their house = planning delays, green protest camps and court action. Compensation and delays= cost = unhappy taxpayers.
Wider trains need stronger bigger parts to hold up all that extra weight. Extra weight = bigger track foundations, more building work, more horsepower to move the train. More = cost = not a chance it will happen.
The answer, scrap capitalism and socialism so we all revert to cave men and live like animals. This reduces our CO2 emissions and makes the rich the same as the poor. Or we do what everyone else is doing and build a few high speed lines and improve the existing trains and wishfull thinking says build some more tram networks in the bigger towns and cities.
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Well said George, excellent response.
Our existing railway will be full to capacity in 20 years time, HS2 and tram networks will free up capacity and hopefully get freight back on the railways and thereby free up roads.
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