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Tuesday 2nd March 2010, 7:41AM GMT.
Letter: With all the letters in the paper about the plans for the new shopping development, I suspect I was like the majority of people in the town – I had assumed that the need for a new food supermarket and cinema was so blindingly obvious.
However, as I understand it, the planning meeting to decide Oswestry’s fate will be held in March, I am increasingly concerned that a small, but highly vocal group of unelected, self-interested people will be representing the town.
The truth is that a new supermarket would take trade from the other supermarkets, not small traders, and offer us more choice. Individual traders should not dictate what is in the wider interests of the town.
No-one puts a gun to your head and makes you shop at Tesco, Sainsbury’s, or wherever. If you want to buy nice meat from our good butchers then keep spending there, that’s your choice, but don’t deny me my choice.
It is now vital that some simple facts are stated:
- Oswestry desperately needs new shops, a cinema and other new facilities. We are the second largest town in Shropshire Council.
- We urgently need new jobs. Developing the centre will create building work and once it’s open the new facilities must employ 200 to 300 people at least.
- If we don’t keep employers like Richard Burbidge Ltd in the town then will the last person to leave Oswestry please turn out the lights?
Can we all get a grip on reality and accept that a new store and cinema on the current Burbidge site is the only sensible solution and just get on with it?
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I agree completely that oswestry needs this new development but i don’t think that the Burbidge site is a good idea, traffic around there is already a nightmare. I like most peple i speak to think that the Smithfield development is the best choice and we are keeping our fingers crossed that it is the chosen plan.
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Of the 4 sites to be decided the JT Hughes site next to the cemetary would be just impossible – and brings no other benefit. The Pickstock proposal for the central car park would steralise the centre of the town for up to 2 years and that WOULD kill it stone dead.
The 2 sites in contention have to be Burbridges – which would create some pretty bad traffic problems in the area, and I am not convinced that people would walk or cycle from there into the town centre.
If we are talking economics here – how much does the Smithfield put into the local economy in bringing people to Oswestry to shop ?
It’s not out of town – look at the Penda Park and all the retail done on the so called industrial estate. AND we have a new hotel just a few yards down the road, a new leisure centre opposite and all the 3000 extra housing going into that area over the next few years too – look at the Shropshire Council budget fine print which says that they may even have to build a new primary school in Oswestry to cope with all the extra young people.
The Smithfield is also the only one which would give office accommodation AND a state of the art dentists as well as the cinema.
I hope they vote for the Smithfield!
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I quite agree,At last somebody who speaks it like it is.
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I am always concerned, and a little suspicious about “Name and address supplied” letters, especially in this case. No one is under personal threat in this debate and the subject is not one that demands personal privacy. So the suspicion arises that the writer has a direct personal interest in the Burbage outcome, a member of staff, management or even Tesco. We have no way of knowing without knowing the writer’s name. Why was it withheld?
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I do not understand this letter at all. What would a new supermarket offer us that Sainsburys, Morrisons or indeed Marks and Spencer don’t already offer ?
The writer suggests that
“The truth is that a new supermarket would take trade from the other supermarkets, not small traders, and offer us more choice.”
More choice ? In what ? If a new supermarket does offer more choice than existing supermarkets then of course it will not be taking trade from other supermarkets it will be offering something new and will presumably therefore be replacing the supply of other existing town traders.
The need for a new supermarket is clearly not “blindingly obvious”. If Oswestry does go down this route then it will lose so much of what makes it special. I want to shop at independent shops and support local people and the local economy not huge multinational corporates who will simply take the money and send it out of the local area and likely the country. We already have two substantial supermarkets. You might want to live in a clone town but I certainly don’t.
“Oswestry desperately needs new shops” – Have you seen how many empty stores there are in the town centre ?
Yes, I would agree that a cinema would be great but there are ways and means of achieving this which do not involve inviting another huge supermarket into our town.
Also if you are “concerned that a small, but highly vocal group of unelected, self-interested people will be representing the town” then you should get involved and make your voice heard.
“Developing the centre will create building work and once it’s open the new facilities must employ 200 to 300 people at least.” Have you thought about how many poeople will become unemployed as a result of the knock on effects of such a development ?
The after effect of developments like this are long term and devastating both in terms of the local economy and the effect that it has on the community and the well being of the population as a whole.
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Unlike the authour of the letter, ‘the small and vocal minority’ mentioned are prepared to reveal who they are and where they live. As for small and vocal lets lay down some clear facts:
* over 99% of the letters recieved by Shropshire Council object to the proposed supermarket development.
* the only truested independent survey, conducted by Skillsmart for AWM, of the level of desire for a new supermarket was overwhelmingly negative. 78% of respondents said Oswestry did not need another one.
As for the suppporting comments above most are just plain comical. Not one gives their name and most make idiotic claims to support the supermarket, e.g.’a state of the art dentist’. now that would put Oswestry on the map.
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It’s a pity the tax paying people don’t have a real say, It would be a foregone conclusion, the site would be on the former Smithfield and give a nice visual approach to a mundane, dated, dying town, run by Numpties!!
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Mr Rainey should perhaps declare himself as Chair of the Oswestry Civic Society – as for the survey that showed 78% of people were against the supermarket I was told that only 100 people were actually asked – some survey.
And for letters – well you can always get people to write and sign petitions AGAINST anything – its harder to get them to be FOR anything.
In fact if neighbours and residents were asked to approve development I doubt if any planning application – from a supermarket to a conservatory extension next door would ever be approved.
In fact if the cattlemarket was still being held in the centre of the town and there was a proposal to move it to the current site, no doubt the same set of people would be objecting on the grounds that it would be the death of the town. Just as they argued at the time Sainsbury wanted permission to come to town.
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The first letter said about keeping R burbidge and their employment in town, if they get a go ahead. Talk about blantant blackmail, also their is the so-called cinema ( which will be outdated and subsidised for about 10 years if built).
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I think it odd that virtually every comment posted in some way refers directly to another respondent, rather than clearly statng a personal point of view on the subject!
Oswestry needs a modern inviting gateway.. it has become a town, and local council, full of dreary stick in the muds in the main.. too frightened to encompass change. The Smithfield would be a fantastic site.. not for yet another supermarket, but for larger high street stores, electrical retailers, cinema etc, and a re vamped and modern cattle auction to rival Shrewsbury or Ruthin.
The centre of town will remain an eclectic mix of fab independant shops… and thrive if the locals can do all their business here rather than driving to Shrewsbury or even worse.. Wrexham!.
Maybe there should be less wheeling and dealing at the higher levels, and more notice taken of what the whole town and its neighbouring villagers want, not the opinions of a carefully polled few with fingers in the proverbial pies.
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There is one lot of money to be spent no matter how many shops you build.
Open some new ones and existing ones will close.
This development is pointless and the only guarantee is that the town centre will become even emptier.
I would though welcome a cinema, but no more supermarkets please!
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” I am increasingly concerned that a small, but highly vocal group of unelected, self-interested people will be representing the town.”
It does seem to me that the ELECTED people are not interested in listen to anyone.
So how do you suggest the ”people” of this town voice their opinion.
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From the comments from the first letter, it sounds between the lines, they like tesco, but are fed up with travelling to the likes of wrexham (out of town site) ellesmere(out of town site ,shrewsbury (out of town site). Well I am sorry, we we are not holding a gun to your head,you carry on shopping at tescos.
We have morrsions, sainsburys, aldi, iceland, cooltrader,marks & spencers,already in town, with also many co-op mini stores around the edges of the town. Then their are the smaller independant food stores. So, if you can not get your items from them. Then its not edible!!!
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i think a super market would be a good idea,and the one thing we need is jobs in oswestry.also a cinima as we have to travel to wrexham or shrewsbury it give the kids somewhere to go on a saturday as there nowt for teens in oswestry,no wonder so many are bored with nowt to do.
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I has to smile at English Exiles comment
“It does seem to me that the ELECTED people are not interested in listen to anyone.”
With some people against the proposals, and some for, and some who want it here and others who want it there, which group do you think the elected people should listen to?
When everyone wants something different and there are so many contrasting views (including he 190 members of the group signed up on Facebook against any supermarket development) you have to have at least a grain of sympathy for Councillors who know that whatever they decide will not satisfy everyone. So I guess at the moment they ARE actually trying to listen to everyone – and saying nothing that could cause one or other of the developers to claim that the “process is flawed” as an excuse to take it to an inspector who woukd make the decision without any regard to local people at all.
The planning applications will have to be decided in line with planning policies and guidance anyway. People power is not a material consideration either – the last I heard.
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” nowt for teens in Oswestry, no wonder so many are bored with nowt to do”
Kingswell Centre, Youth Cafe, Centre North West, East Oswestry Youth Project, Scouts Hut, youth footie clubs and Marches School evening activities. Also Cae Glas Park on a sunny day, the Library, The Qube Gallery, volunteering with the Cambrian Railway, BMX in Morda,and so on…There is actually quite a lot for teens in Oswestry. More than there was for the lost teens we used to see every time we went to the multiscreen cinema in Wrexham. Few kids huddled together in an otherwise empty auditorium, having paid lots for tickets and a bit of popcorn and then waiting for parents to taxi them back home. We want a good cinema IN TOWN, not a multiscreen out of town. Stop using kids as an excuse to build more supermarkets. Kids want a cinema but not at any cost.
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1. There is no need for a new supermarket. We already have loads of supermarkets in Oswestry.
2. A new supermarket will ruin the town. As lots of other small towns have been ruined.
3. If Tesco does get the go ahead on the Burbidge site, the first thing they’ll do is to build a mezzanine floor and increase their sales area by half as much again.
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however many supermarkets there are—they are
allways full even if they are side-by side
but i think that they are now becoming expensive
spent £50 the other week and got”nowt” and there is only 2 of us it is just —lazy convenience
for us as well as no-other choice in my little town as there was even before tesco came
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