Letter: EU rebate and the miners

Thursday 18th February 2010, 7:16AM GMT.

eu-flagLetter: I would like to take this opportunity to explain to the writer of the letter regarding the EEC rebate and the miners’ strike.

When the Conservatives took Britain into the Common Market the Monetary Contribution was set on the performance of GDP and other factors such as unemployment.

During the first two years of Mrs Thatcher’s government unemployment in Britain rose from 900,000 to 3.5 million, and Britain fell from the second most wealthy country in the EEC to the second lowest, just above the Italians. So this meant we were paying well above our fair contribution. Mrs Thatcher demanded a rebate and got it.

When Labour came to power in 1997 unemployment was cut to just 1.4 million and Britain was now back to the second most wealthy country in the EEC.

Therefore we were no longer entitled to the rebate.

The miners’ strike was never about money but about keeping British miners in work. Mrs Thatcher’s government started importing cheap coal from Poland.

All the miners wanted was to keep their jobs. We all know the mines were closed and to this very day Britain is importing nearly one millions tons of coal a year from Poland and Russia. In fact, Ironbridge power station is run on Russian coal.

Not only that, but MP Mark Pritchard has even tried to stop the opencast mining near The Wrekin which will produce more than 100 local jobs and supply the power station with local coal, this reducing its carbon footprint. So it only remains for you to judge, was Mrs Thatcher right or were the miners right?

G Sutherland

Trench


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    Bob

    You’re right. The miner’s strike was never about money. It was about the stranglehold which soviet leaning socialists had attained over the trade unions and the undemocratic influence they in turn were exerting on British politics. Ultimately, the welfare of the nation and not just the miners was at stake. The miners did only want to keep their jobs, but Scargill’s agenda was much more ambitious. He used good men to pursue it and ruined the coal industry because of a greedy, rigid and confrontational approach born of arrogance. If any of those poor old miners who had never seen more than their own county, could have seen the Berlin wall in all its infamy, they wouldn’t have thought King Arthur was such a great bloke and that socialism was such a fantastic ideology then.

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    highleyminingco

    the miners stike was bedevilled by intransigence on both sides. maggie had an agenda she wanted revenge for what the num had done to ted heaths government. the miners just wanted to keep their jobs for themselves and their children. sadly they were poorly led by union leaders who refused to have a ballot, so after a years strike most of our collieries were closed by the tories. how different it would have been under labour, yes the worked out mines would have closed with investment in open cast mining and other industries. after those maggiememories, i for one never want to see those “caring” tories ever again near downing street

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    Ken Adams

    Sorry; this letter is absolute rubbish, the main reason for the rebate was the high proportion of the EU budget that is spent on the CAP (at that time 80% it is now 40%), the UK has a relatively small farming sector as a proportion of GDP hence it benefits much less than other countries. So we were paying too much, in fact we were paying more than any other member state although at the time we were the third poorest. Thatcher wanted to redress the over payment but EU being the EU, came up with the complicated rebate scheme instead.

    The rebate is nothing to do with the miners and everything to do with CAP, that was why Blair agreed a reduction in the rebate on condition that the CAP was renegotiated the French promised that this would be done at the next round but then reneged on the commitment.

    Sorry; this letter is absolute rubbish, the main reason for the rebate was the high proportion of the EU budget that is spent on the CAP (at that time 80% it is now 40%), the UK has a relatively small farming sector as a proportion of GDP hence it benefits much less than other countries. So we were paying too much, in fact we were paying more than any other member state although at the time we were the third poorest. Thatcher wanted to redress the over payment but EU being the EU, came up with the complicated rebate scheme instead.

    The rebate is nothing to do with the miners or how relatively wealthy we might be in relation to the other members and everything to do with CAP, that was why Blair agreed a reduction in the rebate on condition that the CAP was renegotiated the French promised that this would be done at the next round but then reneged on the commitment.

    Removing the rebate without change to the CAP would put Britain in the position of
    paying 14 times that of the French who are biggest contributor to the rebate. In 2005 we were paying annually £31 per head for our membership of this organisation whilst the French were paying £ 21 remove the rebate and our payment soars to £89 each.

    France is one of the wealthiest countries in the EU and is as to be expected a net contributor, however if their contribution to the British rebate were removed France would then be a net recipient of EU funds

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    Peter

    Bob,

    You seem to have forgotten a vital point in your ‘reds under the bed’ rant. Whilst Thatcher was busy destroying the coal industry and associated communities in this country, telling everyone that she didn’t believe in subsidised coal, and painting all trade unionists as ‘commies’ she was busy buying subsidised coal from a totalitarian communist state.

    What a hypocrite she was…

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    highleyminingco

    not only did maggie ruin our mining industry, her privatisation of the steel industry, having run it down prior to this, is a direct material fact why 1600 steel workers are losing their jobs this weekend at redcar teeside.
    now dont run away with the fact that i am putting all the blame for the miners strike on maggie. her partner in crime arthur scargill and the other leaders of the num are as much to blame, and the losers their members, their children and grandchildren, whose chances of employment underground were snuffed out during 1984/5. long term all of us were losers.
    what cannot be argued away is the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs under the tories, and those of us with long memories will hopefully ensure a gordon brown victory of 18 seats in may.

    now is not the time for spivs, novices or millionaires to run the country, hopefully therte will never be a time for them

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    Charlie Drake

    Best Prime Minister in my lifetime. Oh how we could do with her back right now !!!!

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    Peter

    Charlie,

    Why do we need her back? Do we need 3.5 million jobless? Do we have hospitals that need to be closed? Do any more of our public services need to be sold to foreigners? Do we need leaking roofs in our primary schools? Do the rich need more huge tax cuts?

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    Bob

    No, Peter. Quite right! I shall join you in voting Labour at the forthcoming election because the next government will have the painful and deeply unpopular task of making quite unprecedented cuts and may even need to go cap in hand to the IMF for a bail out. I think Prudence Clown and Co should reap what they have sown and be the beneficiaries of all the anger and misery yet to come.

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    jimmy telford

    ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT mr Scargill did not take a ballot are wrong if you can remeber when he ran for the leadership one of his parts of his mandate was that if he was voted in he would fight the tories to keep all the pits open and on that he got a very big majorty so it was no good moaning about a pithead vote as he was voted in on those grounds. And can you remeber the miners from Nottingham who trusted Mrs Thathcer where did it get them the sack need Isay more

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