Letter: Just wait for the summer
Friday 12th February 2010, 6:11AM GMT.

A typical July afternoon in Sutton Road, Shrewsbury
Letter: So, a quarter of the British people, according to a recent poll, believe there is no global warming, regardless of the cause.
I wonder by how much that fraction will fall if we have a hot summer. Sometimes I feel that the human species developed a large brain to become stupid, not clever.
How many people know that the UK occupies an area less than one two-thousandths of the whole world? Not many, as Michael Caine might have said. And you would have to add the North Sea and a sizeable chunk of Western Europe and the Atlantic to bring that fraction up to one per cent.
Furthermore, scientists predicted that global warming would not make our own temperatures rise, owing to a breakdown of the Gulf Stream.
Fortunately this has not yet occurred, although the signs are there. The influence of cold eastern and northern air masses have caused our present cold winter, particularly in Scotland.
Even so, we have not been threatened with conditions experienced in 1947 when even the sea froze. Anyone with any sense of local observation will have noticed that summer vegetables and fruits have been maturing recently about a month sooner than they did 40 years ago.
Perhaps that last comment of mine is the reason why some of us oldies are laughed at. Oh for the days when the old tribal chiefs were regarded with a certain amount of respect.
Richard Smythe
Newport
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One question.
What has happened to the millions upon millions of £’s that have been taken off us in the name of ”Global Warming”?
Perhaps most of it has been invested in scientist who have a vested interest in maintaining the Global Warming theory.
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i think the number of these ‘non believers’ is down to people being fed up with the nonsense spouted by our politicians. They don’t believe what they say about anything these days after the expenses row. However, take a look at the temperature graphs taken from ice records for over 10 million years ago; Isotope 18 records (an oxygen isotope that exists more abundantly in warmer environments) fluctuate hugely suggesting that the warming and cooling of the planet has happened over this long time period quite naturally. Fact.
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The poll showing 25% of people are man made climate change sceptics is totally wrong I doubt you could find 25% of people who believe in climate change. We have been lied to so many times by these man made climate change promoters who need to push these lies to gain millions in government grants. Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth had to find another reason to exist after the end of the cold war and the USSR resulting in less nuclear threat so they latched onto Man Made Global Warming as their cause and both receive money from the European taxpayer to exist.
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“The UK occupies an area less than one two-thousandths of the whole world” Hmm, that’s 0.2%. So if we Brits pay lots more taxes we can solve all the problems for the other 99.8% of the world. Right?
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Phil Jones: “There has been no warming since 1995″
Prosecution rests, your honour. No further questions.
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I have a question for winja, your honour.
Why did you ignore the rest of this interview, winja?
Question E – How confident are you that warming has taken place and that humans are mainly responsible?
Professor Phil Jones: I’m 100% confident that the climate has warmed. As to the second question, I would go along with IPCC Chapter 9 – there’s evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity.’
Source: BBC News, Q&A: Professor Phil Jones, 16:05 GMT, Saturday, 13 February 2010.
It seems, your honour, that the climate denialists are up to their old tricks and quoting OUT OF CONTEXT.
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Winja’s tactics of quoting out of context are similar to those used by David Rose, a journalist at the Mail on Sunday in an article on 10 January 2010 (‘The mini ice age starts here’).
Rose quoted a 2008 paper by respected climate scientist Mojib Latif (Leibniz Institute at Kiel University in Germany) out of context to suggest that cold weather in January undermined the scientific case for manmade global warming.
In an interview with the Guardian (‘Leading climate scientist challenges Mail on Sunday’s use of his research’, 11 January 2010), Mojib Latif, said he “cannot understand” reports that used his research to question the scientific consensus on climate change.
“It comes as a surprise to me that people would try to use my statements to try to dispute the nature of global warming. I believe in manmade global warming. I have said that if my name was not Mojib Latif it would be global warming.”
He added: “There is no doubt within the scientific community that we are affecting the climate, that the climate is changing and responding to our emissions of greenhouse gases.”
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I would actually query the way the original BBC questions were posed!
The question referred to in this letter is
“From what you know and have heard, do you think that the Earth’s climate is changing and global warming taking place?”
I would find it difficult to answer this question with any certainty because it is actually a combination of two questions; hence if I answer “yes I do believe the climate is changing” I am also being forced to accept that global warming is taking place. Not only that, it is quite likely it would also be assumed that I agree with the alarmists predictions.
If I believe the climate is changing, because it always has, then obviously at some point it will be warming at others cooling.
It interesting to note that according to Professor Jones the quarter who – do not believe the world is warming – are in fact right to do so (at this time), because for the past few years the world has not warmed. The context here is framed by the question of global temperatures and not the interview given by Jones, who it would seems accepts that the world has not warmed since 1995, (I thought 1998 was the hottest on record) but also believes humans have caused warming since 1950, he now has to consider the conflict in his position, as we therefore obviously must have stopped doing so in 1995.
One small point about this letter, Mr Smythe is of course quite right that Britain is only a small island and we cannot judge the worlds climate by our own, but the severe weather is not confined to just Britain, there are reports of heavy snow falls and low temperatures from all over the northern hemisphere, we are having record breaking snow events. This of course does not disprove the theory of man made global warming, but I understand it does conflict with the computer programme scenarios on which the climate change industry is built.
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Ken….not all of the North is covered in snow.
Here in BC we have the warmest winter on record…as you may well have noted the Olympics (Britain go a gold today)have had to truck in snow for the events.
Our temperature today is 8c. – a far cry from the usual -20c.
Not that I want to agree with Huw …. but the weather here is crazy – the snowdrops are popping up. What next?
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I am unsurprised by Ken Adams’ attempt to distort what Phil Jones said.
In nearly every exchange we have had, Mr Adams, who thinks -ludicrously- that climate change is an EU plot to take over Britain, has denied what the science is telling us.
Here he is up to his old trick of distorting 2 unequivocal statements by climate scientists.
Jones: ‘I’m 100% confident that the climate has warmed… [and] there’s evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity.’
Latif: “There is no doubt within the scientific community that we are affecting the climate, that the climate is changing and responding to our emissions of greenhouse gases.”
Recently the World Glacier Monitoring Service, the body responsible for exposing the now notorious mistakes on the melting of the Himalayan glaciers in the latest report of the IPCC, says that the almost 100 glaciers it regularly surveys around the world showed a continuation of “the global trend in strong ice loss over the past few decades” in 2007/2008, the latest year for which figures have been analysed.
Could you comment on this, please, Ken.
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I still find it amazing that people believe that all the Co2 we have released into the atmosphere during the last hundred years is not having any impact on global temperatures. It is impossible for it not to. Co2 is a greenhouse gas. It’s atmospheric concentration is rising. The globe has to be warming. And is.
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