Letter: Life was better in the 1950s

Thursday 28th January 2010, 7:58AM GMT.

Shropshire lads serving in Malaya in the early 1950s. This picture was emailed in by Ron Gill of Buildwas

Shropshire lads serving in Malaya in the early 1950s. This picture was emailed in by Ron Gill of Buildwas

Letter: I fully endorse the comments of Dr Michael Kirk, (Starmail January 20), regarding W F Kerswell’s memories of the 1950s.

I was a teenager in the 50s in Sheffield and, like the doctor, enjoyed the freedom to roam in safety unheard of today. As for serial drinking and drunkenness, both require money which was not readily available then.

And you can be sure that none who worked in Sheffield’s coal mines or steelworks were foolish enough to attend for work under any level of influence.

Apart from the odd neighbour platting his legs on the way home from the pub, I saw little drink abuse.

My dad was a father of 10 children and had a drink on a Saturday night but like most around him seemed to be keener on the dominoes than the drink.

I am sorry Mr Kerswell has such a jaundiced view of a time when children respected their parents, teachers and elders, a time when everyone respected the police and politicians, a time when truth, honesty, manners and marriage where the order of the day.

We also had no Britain’s Got Talent or related dross as we did not have television, or central heating or, before I was 15, electric light. It is today’s children who have the raw deal not us.

Bob Wydell

Oswestry


  1. 1
    a

    yeah… poverty, racism, sexism, rationing, the nuclear threat, life expetency of around 60 years

    oh how i miss the 1950′s

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    mark stokes

    In truth I don’t think there has ever been a golden age. Be assured, sexual abuse, domestic violence, infidelity, alcoholism were as rife then as they are now, only better hidden or ignored.

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    Richard

    so Bob, do you wish that your grandchildren could work down the mines? No, I thought not.

    Undoubedtly some things were better and some worse, but people’s health and standard of living is surely much better now, and for most people those would outweigh some of the negative aspects of life today.

    People generally have more opportunities in life, as to where they work or to travel for example.

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    Peter

    Hardly surprising that Bob, who is known for his anti-EU stance, and his hankering for the halcyon days of a ‘Little England’ which never actually existed, save for in the pages of H.E. Bates’ novels, should take such a rose-tinted view of the past.

    I’m sure we all miss polio, diptheria, rickets and life-threatening smogs – yep, we never had it so good!

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    marco

    The past is not what it used to be!

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    David

    The comments already on here that talk of the bad things from those days are absolutely true. There were many aspects of life in the 50′s that have been improved upon considerably. Unfortunately it is also true that many of the values of decency, respect and honor are now missing from society. It would be nice to have the best of both worlds without the downward spiral of values.

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    Laurie

    This thread reminds me of the Monty Python sketch that ended:

    I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

    And you try and tell the young people of today that ….. they won’t believe you.

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    aderyn

    Well said David

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    Stuart

    a, poverty, racism, sexism, nuclear threat etc are all still with us, some would argue that they are a sight worse now than then. Only in todays news, child poverty is worse than it has been for 40 years and inequality is at it’s worst for many generations, there was no BNP in the 50s to the extent it is now and was it Bliar who said that Iraq could zap us with WMDs in 45 minutes. Now the unchecked spread of nuclear weapons presents a bigger threat to the world than what it ever did in the 50s where it was a case of “mutually assured destruction” between 3 nuclear states. Israel considered using nuclear weapons against Egypt in their last set to when it looked as if Israel was going to over-run.
    Mark Stokes, In the 50s, I was in a job which gave a good insight into the issues of sexual abuse, domestic violence etc etc. in the ten years of the 50s I came across one case of incest and one case of extreme child cruelty, it may well have gone on undercover but definately not on the scale of today. As for alcoholism, it was not rife and extreme drinking was the exception as opposed to the rule. In no way did it compare with today.
    Richard, whether or not your first para was meant to be facetious or whatever, child labour down the mines was outlawed in (I think) the late 1800s. In the 1950s, the minimum age that a child could work part time was 13 years and employers had to register his/her name and the work was limited in terms of hours, type and it could not interfere with school etc. In the 1950s, I could have gone anywhere in the country to work, as it was I went to London and from there into the army and from there all over the world. Distance and travel were not inhibitions on work in those days.
    About the only factual thing mentioned here is the improvement in the health care over that in the 1950s. Even polio, diptheria, rickets were rapidly becoming deseases of the past and by the very early 1950s had all but dissapeared.
    Apart from his first line which is wide of the mark, the nearest one to the truth here is David. As for the rest some plainly are not old enough to know anything of the 50s and for many of us, the 50s were halcyon days which have long since gone under a welter of social engineering where money and property is the root of all evil and our democracy has been smothered by a lot of self seeking, opportunist and bent MPs.
    Someof the above comments are understandable however if those who write them have no knowledge of what the 50s were all about.

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    Richard

    Stuart, give me some credit for knowing that children weren’t allowed to work in mines in the 50′s!!! What I meant was that he wouldn’t want his grand-children when they’re of working age working in the mines.

    Yes, there are stilll massive health inequalities, but absolute poverty was much greater then than today, and life expectancy is much higher now.

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    mark

    Stuart, I don’t doubt that there were aspects of the 1950s there were less complicated. The country was still experiencing the euphoria of the end of the second World War, with its attendant economic growth and rising standard of living. But, we shouldn’t deceive ourselves into thinking that the problems were not there and on a similar scale. After 30 years in the field of social work I know that many of the problems facing families now i.e sexual abuse, violence, substance abuse etc didn’t suddenly arise in the last 50 years or so. The roots of these problems go back a very long way. Thankfully today we have agencies which allow people to report these cases of abuse (something that was not so accessible in the 50s) so enabling people to receive the support, protection and in some cases the therapeutic treatment they need in dealing with these crises.

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    Andrew Finch

    Looking back can sometimes be in blinkered fashion but lets be honest pre world war 1 life was in the main crap after that things changed for the better.
    The Upside and Downside to the 1950,s
    National health personal care brilliant now poor
    medical help poor now brilliant and world class.

    UK Employment Law poor now world class.

    Marriage and family life important now you get a group hug from friends if your the man or woman who walks out on their family

    world travel now open to all in work

    School life beatings and bullying by teachers both private/state went unchecked now the child or should say victim is protected.

    Punishment fitted the crime includeing the death penalty, now it is a world class joke.

    Cars looked nice especially the american cars but were death traps now most cars are safe to a point.

    Access to the world was via books at the library now we have the worldwide webb in your home.

    More disposable income and access to items or places you once could never could afford or were allowed.

    Downside to modern day life respect was lost for many groups when people woke up in the 1980′s an saw how these people from police , teachers etc abused their positions. In the naughties we finaly brought out politicains to book and the level of abuse of power was exposed.

    So the verdict is things may change for the better in the main but many modern things are down to individuals such as being to fat, drunked,no manners, etc etc tweek the other law and order issues and make family life No1 and you will get some ordr back.

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    sara

    what a silly letter the 50s were miserable cold, poor, rationing, what a joke to say it was better than the realtive luxury we enjoy today

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    Suellan Fowler

    Whenever you solve one problem it’s always soon replaced by another – that’s life!

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    Tony Lewis

    I have many fond memories of life in the ’50s in Shropshire:
    Cycling on country roads…there was no traffic. Camping on the Longmynd and Wrekin. Hiking through the beautiful countryside and stopping for a shandy at a country pub. Country dances in the church hall. Big band music at the music hall. Reading great books outside the old library (is it still there?). Buying a rabbit for Sunday dinner at the old Victorian market place (later knocked down – how sad is that?). Having a drink at the posh Raven. Visiting the wonderful museums (Rowley’s Mansion?)….the lovely parks, magnificent architecture, rowing on the river.

    I left at the end of that decade to live in continental Europe….and eventually New Zealand/Canada.
    I think we were very fortunate to live at that time in such a lovely county – and country, but life goes on – make the best of the time and place wherever you live.

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    eva land

    I entirely agree Mark #12.
    Look at what happened to the guy who basically as good as won us WW11 when he broke the enigma code. He hung himself after the war as he was homosexual and was punished by the small minded ignorance of the very country he had saved with his superior intelligence.
    There is good and bad in every generation and it is too easy to look back with rose tinted spectacles to a time when you yourself were younger and perhaps had less experience of the world and it’s problems.
    [In the 50s, I was in a job which gave a good insight into the issues of sexual abuse, domestic violence etc etc]

    Not good enough by the sound of it Stuart and anyway the few women police we had mainly dealt with all that.

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    Diane

    I also agree with David’s summary – shame we can’t have the best of both worlds. Whilst we have the advances of science, technology and a greater awareness of domestic violence, sexual abuse etc, the downward spiral of values is also becoming more and more evident with each generation. Look at the parent and you can picture the child…..

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    Peter

    Stuart,

    I can’t agree that there was less child poverty in the ’50s than there is now. Far more children died in infancy then than now. Similarly with child abuse. Sadly, despite all the tabloid scaremongering, all the statistics point to levels of child abuse being pretty constant over the years. Of course, back in the ’50s, this sort of abuse wnt on behind closed doors, often in children’s homes and in religious institutions, as we have sadly seen too often as these children reach adulthood and the stories come to light.

    In the end, there are positive and negative points about then and now. So much has changed, so much in life has become more complicated that in truth the attempt to make such comparisons is probably invalid in the first place.

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    woolibuga

    Of course the 30′s, 40′s and 50′s was to some of us the “Best of Times” .. we were young and full of pep and vinegar and just as eager for knowledge and experience as any of today’s generation! ..a well equipped bicycle would transport you 100 miles a day in pristine countryside without the rearward fear of some pedal to metal yuppie propelling you into oblivion! .. a bed and breakfast would cost you a few shillings and a few pence a plowmans lunch.

    Trying to compare and justify is futile since the young of today will assess this time! .. their youth and vigour with as much relish as we who are much older do! … thet say that with age comes wisdom and apart from the obvious fond memories of “The Good Times” the one thing that sets then and now apart in my perception is what I describe as a “Sense of Values” …

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    Christine Mary

    I heard it was in the 1940s that people were happiest, even though money/food was scarce famillies helped each other, not like now where we are all too materialistic.

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