Letter: Charge for use of air ambulance
Thursday 31st December 2009, 10:54AM GMT.

Midlands Air Ambulance
Letter: I am sure that there are many folk in this county who are having serious doubts about the use of the air ambulance for minor injuries.
The latest report a woman who had a fractured ankle being airlifted to hospital beggars belief.
If this is what our collections are used to pay for then count me out.
If a serious road accident had taken place and this plane was not available a life so easily could have been lost.
There was also an ambulance attendance. Was it too much trouble to stretcher her out?
Serious questions need to be asked about the call centre sending out our ambulances to unnecessary calls.
Why are they not weeding out these people?
Crews are risking life and limb to attend these calls in less than 10 minutes only to find that somebody has cut his finger.
Who is in charge of this ridiculous situation? The free for all NHS must come to an end to stop this abuse.
A £50 charge should be made to any person calling an ambulance.
What a difference this would make to the crew’s workload.
Overnight you would see people using their cars to get to hospital for minor matters.
Before all the protesters to this put pen to paper consider this. If your washing machine breaks down and you want a repair man it will cost you £60 as he walks through the door and that is for the first half hour, plus parts.
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On the face of it, a reasonable questioning of whether the air ambulance is used for frivolous cases, although I’d prefer to allow the emergency services to make the decision as they should have the necessary experience and what may seem a no-need case may have expensive consequences for the NHS in general if the minor injury has an impact that results in a long-term care bill.
Not sure about the charge for an ambulance though – thin end of the wedge for a service that is paid for by NI and tax anyway; it may be more useful if the NHS screened on a case by case basis and simply refused to send them when there was no need, although due to insurance suits, they tend to be over-cautious, and who can blame them?
To give a different viewpoint, it may interest people to know that the air ambulance in Switzerland is also run free of government money, but in that case, it is run by subscription. Anyone who feels that they may need its services can buy a subscription every year at about, I believe, £30. If you are a subscriber, you get the air ambulance services free of charge. If you elect to call one and you’re not subscribed, then you pay or you get your insurance company to pay. Seems to work well enough, but then that’s in a country where there is no free of charge health service anyway, so people are used to being insured or subscribing and, yes, paying does make them think about whether they really do need to use the service or not.
Where I feel that charges could be made is in the field of mountain search and rescue. If people are going to go off walking or climbing, then they should buy a (walker’s) liability insurance to cover them against a subsequent charge if they needed to be searched for and rescued when the weather closed in or they got lost. I hear of too many people going off when bad weather is forecast and then needing to be rescued because they did not have the right equipment or experience. However, even in search and rescue, I would not suggest charging if it was a case of injury that necessitated the evacuation.
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Can someone answer me the following question – Does the Air Ambulance service charge people who are involved in a motoring accident, who then claim the cost back from their insurance policy?
Since I believe that the normal ambulance service does raise a charge that people can claim off their insurance policy.
That extra would make a big difference for the air ambulance
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This letter writer has a very limited knowledge of what goes on in the Ambulance Service and also a very simplistic view of the world too.
Agreed – the Ambulance Services throughout the UK are plagued by timewasting calls. Blanket charging everyone £50 is a complete non-starter; presumably this person is one of those who never thinks he or she will require an ambulance!
As for the person airlifted with a ‘broken ankle’ – that may have been the reported injury once the casualty had been treated in hospital ( I don’t know the case the writer is referring to), but that may not have been the situation reported to Ambulance Control at the time.
Calls to persons with ‘cut fingers’ are NOT dealt with as Category A (ie life threatening) calls requiring an 8 minute response; they are triaged by the Control Centre and unless other factors are present, calls like this would never be responded to “within 10 minutes” unless the ambulance crew happened to be round the corner and no other 999s were pending. These days, that is frankly unlikely – all ambulance services are stacking calls, whether life threatening or not. Incidentally, there are very few Ambulance Services which currently have the luxuty of a ‘do-not-send’ policy, which would have to be clinically tried and tested (as well as approved). Most Services would love to have this ability…with appropriate safeguards in place!
The key is people being far more aware of what constitutes an ‘emergency’. It would seem that far too many have no idea (and care even less). A lot of people dial 999 simply because they “have no money for a taxi” (or don’t want to pay for one). Drink-related calls are of course a major problem.
How – and who – decides who should pay a charge for an ambulance? Hopefully not someone like this letter writer, who of course (it hardly needs to be said) hasn’t the courage of his or her convictions to reveal their name!
Isn’t that always the case?!
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Unless “Name and address supplied” is an expert in trauma medicine, and knows the full details of the case he/she refers to, then his/her comments are worthless.
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Actually it was me who had the fractured ankle, plus other serious injuries!! Thats right Simon i think when emergency services were called they advised i had hit my head too, an ambulance arrived and confirmed it would be better to wait for the air ambulance due to the nature of my injuries, im just glad i had people with me to help me prompty, i was in horrific pain – thats right Matt, people who make this ridiculas comments should come forward – i will tell you exactly what it’s like to be in an incident stranded with no help – id just like to say a massive thankyou to everyone and the crew that day…i appriciate everything you did for me, perhaps if this person were to have an accident they may appriciate the quick service provided!!!
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The Air Ambulance is often called at the same time as a normal ambulance is dispatched and is then recalled as not needed (just to stay within the Government guidelines for “Response Times” I believe). Having said that, there are places in Shropshire which are inaccessible to motor vehicles, therefore a helicopter provides the best response for getting a patient to hospital within the “Golden Hour” and any decision on how to respond must always remain with the emergency services.
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There must be some way of categorising the severity of accidents.
Having heard of the people who dial 999 because the cat was miowing, as reported on Radio, should be severely fined.
They should also be made to do “community service” time assisting in treatment of real casualties.
These dumbos should be made to realise what a real emergency is.
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Having said that, there are places in Shropshire which are inaccessible to motor vehicles, therefore a helicopter provides the best response for getting a patient to hospital within the “Golden Hour” and any decision on how to respond must always remain with the emergency services. – Exactly!!!! – I was in the middle of no where the ambulance took 40 mins to find me, this is why the Air Ambulance is crucial in some cases – !!!!
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Despite the cost of running the helicopter, which I am sure is ongoing regardless of whether it is called out or not,surely it is also advisable to provide the aircrew with ongoing training opportunities and you’re not going to get those sat on your backside at Cosford.
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To add to Rodney’s comments, the Swiss air ambulance service, Rega, does offer more services than the UK air ambulances in that it is provides global coverage and where necessary will transport people back to Switzerland from anywhere in the world. For this it has a fleet of fixed-wing aircraft as well as helicopters- In practice the costs of this are shared with whatever other insurances one may have. For many people this is a combination of supplementary coverage by their health insurance provider and a policy from the motoring organisation.
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Re the comment about ambulance charges being passed to insurers in RTAs, in fact, whilst hospital charges are sometimes reclaimed where the injured person has already succesfully claimed compensation from an insurer, typically ambulance charges are not reclaimed, and although there is some leeway to claim ‘NHS costs’ this rarely happens – the whole ‘charged for ambulances’ thing is a bit of a urban myth.
As for the idea that individuals can specifically call the Air Ambulance, this isn’t the case of course. You call an ambulance – which type turns up is based solely upon a climical assessment at the time.
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Why does a woman going to hospital with a broken leg by Air Ambulance beggar belief?
Unless “Name and Address Supplied” is a qualified medic and was at the scene of the incident, how on earth can they have any criteria to justify their opinion?
Equally I did not realise you could dial 999 and be put through to the Air Ambulance… each call is individually assessed.
If this went in the paper, then it is nothing but a waste of ink.
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The problem here is the letter writer is hearing a snippet of the whole story and making a comment which he/she has the right to do.
As with people who bleat on about all these benefit claimers we do not know all the facts we on the whole assume and in many cases are way of the mark.
As for charges etc well perhaps the national health service needs to be looked at and with the volume of people now useing it in the uk should charges for certain things should now now be made in order to ease the burden.Perhaps our NI nad taxes are not enough perhaps we should be made to pay more lets face it we will never give what we are not forced to when it comes to taxes etc.
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Well, thanks guys, all of you have added some really good comments, this letter really really upset me, particulary the fact that this anon person dosen’t know the facts about my accident and the how awful it was to be in that position. There is also some really interesting information you have all added and i just wanted to say thank you, especially Matt2 for “Unless “Name and Address Supplied” is a qualified medic and was at the scene of the incident, how on earth can they have any criteria to justify their opinion? – thats totally correct, hit the na\il on the head there my friend!! – i just wonder how on earth this person was provided with this information??
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As an ex A&E nurse, I can categorically say that the majority (that I can recall) of air ambulance cases we had in WERE in need of airlifting. For instance should you be unlucky enough to break anything whilst walking on the Long Mynd, horseriding or involved in an agricultural accident then a land ambulance may be unable to reach you, and I would rather have someone airlifted in because they were traiged by the Ambulane Service as a high priority and then re triage them as a lower priority than have someones death or permanent disability on my mind. Get well soon Claire X
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Re. the frivilous use of the Air Ambulance. Whilst out walking with a friend on 21st December I slipped and fell – discolating and breaking my ankle in two places. Due to the isolated location I telephone my husband to alert the emergency services as he knew where I was and would be able to give them a grid reference. I was suitably kitted out for winter walking – a point that the paramedics made when they found me. I and the land crew were assisted by local people and was stretchered up to where the Air Ambulance had landed. After an operation at the RSH and spending a total 4 days in hospital the first thing I did when I came home was to write to
the Air Ambulance HQ thanking them and enclosing a cheque for £50.
We regularly donate to the Air Ambulance and raise funds locally.
To cut a long story short, plese don’t judge a book by it’s cover! We thank our blessing just as much as everyone else and try to do out bit.
Joan Morris
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Hi Florence – thank you for your kind comment. – Also i totally agree with everything you have mentioned….
Joan – im sorry to hear about your accident, i myself was out in the open and miles from help, i too thank my lucky stars for such a wonderful prompt servce and shall do everything i possibly can to help the charity, been as it has helped me so much, i wish you a quick and speedy recovery, i know how painful it is braking/fracturing your ankle. Claire xxx
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The problem i see is that when a ambulances is called there is no charge, the person is treated in hospital then if they cannot arrange their own way home or there is a medical need including just having a leg in cast(as they can get in a car easily) then another ambulance is arranged again no charge, This ie all well and god as we Pay our NI for this purpose, However why should a NON British national visiting this country get the same free services we should raise the full cost of treatment and transport to persons that do not pay NI, after all if we went to their country no insurance = no treatment. I believe the current charge for a car accident is 30 pounds, now if there is fault to be laid, then surely the full cost again should be met by the Party at fault as this is not an accident it was a act of negligence by the party causing the crash.
and the other side of the coin is why does the Ambulance service use volunteer car drivers who they pay a mileage allowance to use their own vehicle then charge the hospital a substantial amount for what is realistic provided to the ambulance service for less than what the tax man says fuel allowance can be..
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