Clampdown as motorists drive wrong way
Tuesday 17th November 2009, 3:15PM GMT.
Police are promising a zero tolerance approach to motorists who are driving the wrong way down a Shrewsbury street as a shortcut.
On average 10 vehicles an hour are taking short cuts via Fish Street and then turning briefly against the traffic flow to access St Mary’s Place.
Police today pledged to take a zero tolerance approach and will slap anyone who carries out the manoeuvre with a £30 on-the-spot fine.
“They are acting illegally and putting the safety of other road users and pedestrians at risk. Despite constant warnings, drivers are not taking heed,” said Constable David Walton.
“Fish Street is unsuitable as a through road and is designated ‘Access Only’. Many drivers are then compounding the situation by failing to turn right.
“Instead, they are turning left for a short distance to turn into St Mary’s Place towards the old hospital shopping complex.
“In doing so, they contravene the mandatory right turn only. It’s estimated about 10 motorists are committing the illegal manoeuvre hourly during the day.”
Constable Walton said police have previously issued offenders with warnings but in future would take a tougher stance by levying £30 fixed penalty notices.
And cyclists who have also been travelling the wrong way through the town centre are also set to face instant £30 fines.
“Cycling is prohibited on Pride Hill and in The Square, as well as on all pavements. Some irresponsible cyclists show a complete disregard for this, said Constable Walton.
“Recently, a pedestrian was knocked over by a cyclist going the wrong way down Castle Street, breaking her elbow in the process,” he said
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Although I do not condone motorists driving the wrong way down a one-way street, I do feel that the police should get out there and target more serious illegal driving practices. However, I suppose it’s nice and easy for PC Walton to rake in £30 per fine and show what a great job he’s doing.
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Does Constable Walton have any figures as to the number of accidents that have occurred and resulting injuries caused at this junction. Surely police time would be better spent eradicating the anti social behaviour that blights the streets of Shrewsbury each and every day, rather than targeting sitting ducks/motorists?
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Thats because they have nothing else better to do, they are just keeping pompus tories happy!
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I’m glad the police don’t listen to people who say they should pick and choose which crimes to police. They should police every type of crime. Nobody is suggesting this is as serious as other crimes. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t act on it.
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“Sitting ducks”? Oh my goodness! Motorists are getting so good at painting themselves as victims. Whatever next? You’ll be complaining because you can’t do 31mph down Pride Hill and park wherever you like, and stuff anyone else.
Driving the wrong way down a one-way street is most definitely anti-social, illegal and dangerous. Would you rather wait until someone is knocked over before they do something? This may not be the week’s biggest headline but such minor issues need tackling just as the big problems do.
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If I can assist Constable Walton while he is thinking, if you put strategic bollards at the junction you could make it impossible for drivers to make the manouvre, if you honestly think it is that dangerous, rather than shivering in the cold clutching your little notebook with eager anticipation at the thought of enforcing a £30 toll on drivers which will still leave you with the same little problem. Its nice to know our wellbeing is in such caring grabbing hands!
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Ah Julian, can I smell bacon?
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about time something was done about this junction!
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I wish that the Telford police would do this in St Georges, they don’t seem bothered here that people are deliberatly flouting the law!!!!!!!!!
Driving standards do seem to be low nowadays!!!
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I’m surprised the police are taking any action at all unless it’s a fractional excess of a speed limit producing funds. Ludicrously poor driving and total disregard for other road users seems to be of no concern to the Service at all !.
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of course they should police every type of crime, just as long as the crimes they police most are the type that make them easy money thats got to be a good thing!
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So you cant cycle on Pride Hill, fair enough.But I feel more in danger of lorries,vans and particularly council road sweepers who treat pedestrians with comtempt on pride Hill.The council seem to favour busy Saturdays to fly up and down the pedestrian area,perhaps Constable Walton should be looking at them.
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Drivers make a simple choice when driving a car. Break the law…. or not to break the law. Its a simple choice, and we have no-one to blame when we break the law and get caught!!! Maybe the police should be even stricter on motorists and use the additional funds to buy further resources to police more serious issues.
If you don’t want to pay the fines etc. then don’t break the law. Agree with speed limits or not… we CHOOSE to exceed them!
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Surely this is a job for enforcement cameras,24/7 survayelance cameras.
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24/7 cctv?????
they can’t even man the ones we have now 24/7 so thats out the question!
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After reading the article, it seems to me that it is the rule against turning left which is wrong.
Bad rules are rarely obeyed.
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Paul Johnson – if you mean am I a police officer, then no. However I do have respect for the police, for the rules of the road and for other road users. It is just a shame that so many drivers cannot say the same thing.
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I must hold my hands up and admit to having done this a number of times. It is really more like a staggered crossroads and I have always waited until thereis nothing in sight! In future I will not do it though!
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Yosemite Sam, so you think that you should be able to turn left thus resulting in you travelling the one way down a one way street!?
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is it ok to break the law as long as you only do it a little bit..
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Its not the junction that’s the problem it the people living in fish street complaining about the amount of traffic driving up there cobbled road.
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The problem with all of this is that:
Things like ignoring a short section of “one way”, ignoring road signs (and of course exceeding the speed limit – although I didn’t think the article was about speeding, ref big matty #13) are:
Quite simply illegal, and so … it’s nice and easy for the police and others to overstate a simple manouvre taken over a very short distance as “dangerous” and putting safety of others at risk when really .. is it anything of the sort??
Now – the point is this – NO ONE can argue that it’s illegal, and so we shouldn’t do it,
and so ….. it’s EVER SO easy for the police to take the “holier than thou” approach as they seem to be doing.
BUT – Surely there are FAR MORE serious issues to sort out – ??
If you can’t drive a car safely in a crowded busy town centre EVEN allowing for the odd “slightly iffy” maneouvre – then you shouldn’t be driving at all!!
Good grief !!We aren’t talking about boy racers going down Pride hill at 50 Mph scattering pedestrians as they go – we are talking about a little “twist” (albeit illegal) to take a short cut.
Something that we’ve all been doing one way or another for generations ! I DO think the police need to put this in perspective!!
Again – There must be FAR more SERIOUS crimse to solve!!
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In response to (12)PJ . Perhaps you would prefer the streets to be covered in litter and fag ends rather than the council conducting thier statutory duty to keep the streets clean. From my experience the town is left in a disgusting state by late night revelers and then perfectly clean by the time the shops open. I for one would thanks the council lads for the hard work day after day that they have to contend with. Any normal person seeing a road sweeper on Pride Hill would just move out of the way and let it get on with its job rather than moan about it.
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i reckon we should sack the police so me and me brother can get our private security company to run the town instead, we could get old dicky to help us.
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@ Post #19, Kelly,
I should have expanded my post to say that it appears that the traffic restrictions in the immediate vicinity are wrong if, apparently, so many, presumably law abiding, people feel justified in ignoring them.
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I’m in agreement with Huw Peach here. The no entry signs should be moved back a few yards so that the manoeuvre becomes legal. By doing that, and shortening journeys, more fossil fuel would be saved because cars would not have top travel so far to reach their destination.
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I am totally in favour of stopping this offence. I couldn’t turn right into church street because of some ignorant driver wanting to do this illegal move.
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Now, hang on.
Going UP Fish Street is not illegal, and – it could be argued – is an “access” to Market Place.
By heading to Market Place from Fish Street is NOT a “left turn”; it is merely a slightly oblique angle from the straight ahead. A slightly staggered crossroads, I would suggest, where turning LEFT (i.e. turning your steering wheel 180 degrees or more) is prohibited. And as another has alluded to on here, if there is no traffic approaching from the left (and god knows visibility is good enough), then what harm does it do to go straight on from the Fish Street exit?
Seems as if many people commenting on this “story” are wannabe communists happy in blind compliance to every single directive issued by the powers that be, no matter how petty and easily enforced these directives may be.
The sooner Winky McBroon and his spear carriers are booted out of office, the sooner we’ll see less of useless petty “offences” like that in the “story” above being monitored and enforced.
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I used to be a Special Constable and one of the senior officers always expounded a theory about why people turned to crime. He always banged on about them not getting caught for riding their bike without lights so they tried more illegal activities resulting in not getting caught so they tried even more illegal activities etc etc. You get my point.
Trouble is bad drivers can kill – if they are driving badly as in this case it is highly probable they will be driving badly elsewhere – with the potential to kill. I would imagine killing someone could be seen as pretty serious would it not?
Bad drivers won’t generally stop being bad drivers once they leave the street in this report. By actually prosecuting them it might make them stop and think. Quite apart from knocking some sense into them that you shouldn’t go the wrong way down a one way street – that’s just stupid!
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National Newspapers have publishid articles stating that the law is to be changed allowing cyclists to ignore one way restrictions on roads.
A few years ago I saw a car driver park his car across the lower end of the Pride Hill pedestrian area in the road. As he left his car a bus driver stopped and told him to move it as he needed all the road to turn the corner. The car driver showed the bus driver his police warrant card. The bus driver told him he could not give a fig who he was, move your car or I will knock it out of the way with my bus. With people applauding the bus driver the policeman moved his car and drove off.
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For all those saying the police should be looking at more serious crime. Has it ever occurred to you that the police, as a whole, can do two things at once! Of course a story of “Police continue to drive around looking for very dangerous drivers” just isn’t such a great news story now is it!
Ps. I am not a police officer.
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Seriously, the police just can’t win with some of this lot.
And before anybody asks, no, I am not a police officer and never have been but I do know people in the service and I also believe I have respect for those enforcing the law in this country.
The vast majority of police officers work incredibly hard, there simply isn’t enough of them to deal effectively with everything.
I have no doubt that the issue in the article has been complained about any number of times, with local residents and shop keepers asking why the police were doing nothing to deal with it.
Just because an officer has taken on himself to stop people driving the wrong way up a one way street (which, however you try and justify it, is illegal, end of story), it doesn’t mean he isn’t dealing with dozens of other jobs and issues too.
Those who feel they can knock the police at every turn for every little thing they do might want to give it a go themselves, maybe sign on as a special constable and see first hand what they have to deal with, day in, day out. Maybe then they won’t be so quick to criticise.
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It does make me laugh when I hear people spouting about the “blighted” and crime ridden streets of Shrewsbury. You honestly think this town has a huge problem with anti-social behaviour?
I grew up in Halifax, a rough old hole with genuine no-go areas where gangs would beat you half to death with a cricket bat for daring to invade their turf, so can say with conviction that so many people who live down here don’t have a clue just how lucky they are.
I certainly know how lucky I am to now live in Shropshire instead of West Yorkshire. The police here don’t seem to do a bad job of keeping it a nice place to live from where I’m standing. I never feel unsafe walking the streets of our lovely county town.
Honestly, some folks seem to mistake Shrewsbury town centre for inner-city Birmingham!
Keep at it coppers, whether it be idiotic drivers or much worse who break the law!
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Hi Vinnie (#31)
Actually – A story line “Police driving around looking for very dangerous drivers” I suggest WOULD make a great news story!!
Fact is – That’s PRECISLEY what the “police” – and I mean proper “Police car drivers” with “True Demonstrable driving skills SHOULD be doing!!
Read all the threads about speed cameras etc – see how many times the comment is made:
“we should have proper police patrols looking out for bad examples of driving – and not relying on cameras that won’t detect it”.
I would say that we as motorists …are tired of all being reduced to the lowest common denominator – being herded around like sheep – being made to adhere to pointless road systems, signals, signs, low pseed limits etc etc … on the misguided assumption that none of us “drivers” are capable of driving to any sort of standard!
Well .. I’m afraid to say that actually a lot of us I’ll wager are as skilled and as competent as the “highly” trained police drivers out there.
Good driving skills aren’t just the unique possession of the “professional drivers” !
And …
I don’t subscribe to the view either, as stated earlier that if you don’t stop small crimes (disgruntled 29)like riding a bike without lights – that we will all progress to hardened criminals!
Honestly!!
if that were true the whole country would be one big criminal playground!!
How many of you have ridden a bike without lights, on the footpath, or “borrowed things” from work etc etc (such as paper, pens, etc)
The list goes on. Even our MP’s have been fiddling expenses !!!!
No one is perfect – including the police – and them banging on about “zero” tolerance” and someone making a small illegal manouvre at low speed with good visiblility etc being likely to kill someone etc is in my humble opinion just plain over-reacting -and does their image no good at all.
As I said – There are FAR more serious crimes to be detected and solved – I’m sure !
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Police time should be spent on the prevention and detection of more serious crimes which they would be doing if they weren’t having to deal with complaints such as this. To those people who are driving in the area incorrectly stop doing it so the police don’t have to waste time policing it! Alternatively (as I don’t know the area) if people think the current restrictions are incorrect campaign your council to change them so no crime is being committed and no police time wasted. You never know, the police might even back you up! (Not sure the residents will though)
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Just a quick comment here, is it not possible to reverse the flow around the Parade this argument wouldn’t even occur then.
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I will work for the Police enforcing this for the flat fee of 50% of the fines I issue, for £150 an hour I think it would be a tidy little earner. For a 5 day week with 4 weeks holiday I could earn £28800 pa, not bad really.
Perish the thought that this is just part of the many wallet smash and grabs orchestrated by the police to simply raise revenue.
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Eric said:
“if that were true the whole country would be one big criminal playground!!”
And, since 1997, that is exactly how “New Labour” would class this country as. More laws, more rules, more surveillance, guilty until proven innocent. Something like 30,000 new laws passed. GB now home to the highest number of CCTV cameras in the developed world. “Do what I say, not as I do” is the current govt’s mantra. And heaven forbid if you work hard for a decent wage, and have a nice house, with a nice view, and a nice car as their envy taxes will charge you for it.
A socialist government, and the minions they employ, intrinsically hate the fact that people can ACTUALLY think for themselves.
Which – in this case – is why the sad, uniformed, womble in the headline story thinks drivers driving straight-on at a crossroads should be punished if there is a sign directing traffic “right only”.
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Winja, you do sound like a bitter soul. It’s not “straight on” at that junction, otherwise drivers would not be driving the wrong way down a one way street for however short a distance.
If you hate how the police do things or dislike this country so much, why don’t you actively do something about it? Maybe become a special constable or campaign to become a councillor or even MP?
I quite enjoy my life and am a bit worried that some people on here have nothing else in theirs than to moan and groan and criticise! There are more fun things to do.
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Comment #34 hits the nail on the head. When you moan that the police are wasting time on trivial matters, it’s because there are so many cretins out there who are unwilling to obey the laws of the road. Stop committing minor offences and you’ll free up the police to deal with the bigger issues.
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All you pompus self opinated people may wish to reflect on the sad death of Pc Bill Barker who tragically died in Cumbria helping his community, before you make further posts.
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Hear hear Barrington (Comment 41).
More people are killed on the roads each year than in burglaries and thefts anyway, so why is it wrong to target motorists?
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There is a poster on here who would do a good job as a police press officer! … Ooooh I forgot …
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Guilty, I too am guilty.
Describing the junction as a staggered crossroad is fair but anything other than driving straight ahead might suggest having to momentarliy head in the wrong direction up the one way street.
I’m just splitting hairs. It’s a waste of police time. Install a camera – £30 a ticket, 10 a day, 365 days p.a. is a decent return. There is probably an unemployed bod who would happily stand on the corner and take photo’s all day for £100K a year. Where do I sign up?
Winja – if you are turning left or right and turning 180 degrees or more, might be time to hang up your car keys. Or go back to school.
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