So Ms Tart considers herself a big girl does she?

A minor columnist on a provincial and insular rag, gives her no more right to speak on issues, than the odious Griffin

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The mainstream political parties have proved via the expenses scandal, inept handling of the economy, crime, war, immigration and just about everything else that they are incompetent and morally bankrupt. This opens up the door to extremists. The BNP and it’s policies are unacceptable to most people, but they will find a following due to their being no-one else who has any credibility. If the Tories, Liberals, and especially New Labour (Tories Mark 2), MPs would clean up their act their would be no place for the BNP. Griffin and his cronies are irrelevant – the British people are fed up with the way things are and would elect Osama bin Laden if it would get rid of the other idiots.

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Unbelievable, the only person I seen being bullied was Nick Griffin a very brave and honest polititian, I am sick of the media bias against anybody who dares stray out of line of a mulicultural Britain that very few indigenous people wanted, Nick and the BNP are the only party left that can save this country now from certain doom,

Lets get out of the EUSSR, lets put an end to mass immigration, lets throw the fat cat bankers in jail, lets hang all child killers, lets put blair and co on trial for war crimes, prove you are not bias by putting up this comment

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‘then rambled on about something to do with European law’
Griffin was right – there is a European law against Holocaust Denial so if he’d have given his reasons for once having been a ‘denier’ then he would have been in contravention of European law.
Straw (grandee?!) was technically right in stating that no such law exists here but if Griffin had said what Straw wanted to say and ever traveled to mainland Europe then he could have been arrested.
Straw knew that.

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To left wing media who get paid a lot of money to talk rubbish please stop this witch hunt now your just going to get more people who will vote BNP we need to put Blair and his mob on war crimes and get out of the EU and we need British jobs for British workers.

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Well Shirley we all KNOW how the BIG BOY’s and GIRL’s of politics treat the downtrodden British public. They abuse the rights they have to expenses etc and are never convicted of fraud while we the poor British public try to get by suffering mass unemployment, high levels of crime, .

If is a choice by the BIG BOY’s or Girls I will go with the small fish whether that is UKIP, or heaven forbid the BNP.

The issue at hand here is the British public have lost all faith in the political system. This is why the smaller parties are gaining more votes. Bashing Nick Griffin is not going to make me support labour or the tories or Jack Straw’s failure in his time in office.

We need honest parties to solve the big issues of this country. While the BNP does not have any answers the tories and new labour have EVEN fewer.

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eva land – even you must see the article is ever so slightly biased.

for example the line “Jack straw roared”

I would never ever say Jack Straw has roared at anyone in my entire life.

If anything a much better word would have been “Jack straw heckled”

The use of the English language dictates whether people are seen as men or mice and Ms Tart is clearly trying to present Jack Straw as a lion and Nick Griffen as a simpering tiny mouse.

While the latter may be correct – Jack Straw is defo not a lion.

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Thank you Shirley Tart, your diatribe on Nick Griffin has definitely comvinced me to vote BNP at the next election. Well done you!

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Shirley, I bet you love Multicultural Britain living down a leafy lane in Shropshire with your white middle class friendly neighbours. Maybe your local village church could be converted to a Mosque or you can be ruled by your village elders (men only) with Sharia Law – Fancy that ? Of course, you as a big girl in the media cannot be critical of ethnic minorities in Britain because you might end up with a Fatwa. I’m afraid that Islam and the Muslim fundamentalists in our midst are already a threat to Britain and it will get worse as they gain power. Well done Nick Griffin. Oh, bye the way ,it is creepy seeing two grown men in the street snogging ! BNP will control immigration.

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Polls are putting support for the BNP at 22% and support for their policies at 66%.

Still smirking now, Mr Dimbleby?

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A transcript for jpt(#7), who defended Nick Griffin’s right to avoid answering questions on prime-time TV.

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Questioner: ‘Winston Churchill put everything on the line to ensure that my ancestors were not slaughtered in the concentration camps. But here sits a man, who says that’s a myth just like a flat world was a myth. How could you say that? How could you?’

Nick Griffin: I cannot explain why I used to say those things. (Audience laughs and boos) I can’t tell you any more than I can tell you why I have changed my mind. I can’t tell you the extent to which I’ve changed my mind because European law prevents me from doing so.

Jack Straw: There is no law here that stops you explaining yourself. As the Justice Minister, I promise you, if you want to explain why you don’t believe it… (cheers from audience).

Bonnie Greer: Come on, Nick, tell us.

David Dimbleby: You have the freedom now to explain it….

Nick Griffin: But unfortunately the French courts and the German courts would not recognise that freedom.

Jack Straw: I will sort that out for you as well.

David Dimblebly: I have a question. Have you actually changed your mind? Or do you only say that you have changed your mind because the law makes it illegal to be a Holocaust denier?

Nick Griffin: I have changed my mind. A lot of it is about figures, and one of the key things which makes me change my mind is British radio intercepts of German transmissions about the brutal mass murder of innocent Jews on the Eastern Front during anti-partisan warfare, which changed the figures greatly.

Jack Straw: What about the Holocaust? What about Auschwitz? People can see with their own eyes what happened. It didn’t need a subsequent radio intercept to find out that people were gassed at Auschwitz.

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What do you think of Griffin’s ‘radio intercept’ argument, jpt?

John Howard (#3) you said that people would vote BNP because the other parties don’t have ‘any credibility’.

I am not a supporter of the 2 main parties, but if I had to choose between them and a brutal, ideological, fundamentalist terrorist, like Osama bin Laden, who (like the BNP) wants to turn us all against each other for his own cynical ends, then I would support them wholeheartedly.

Would you really say that Straw’s comments about Auschwitz don’t have ‘any credibility’ next to Nick Griffin’s pathetic ‘radio intercept’ argument, John Howard?

Phil Reddall from North Shropshire BNP, you said, ‘I am happy for Shirley Tart to have her views so long as the Shropshire Star continue to publish my letters.’

What happens if the Shropshire Star do not publish your letters? Will Shirley Tart no longer be allowed to have views, Mr Redall?

Edward (#15) what do you think of the BNP’s Holocaust denial?

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@ meadowmatt
The BNP’s policy is to:

- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;

- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;

- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;

- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;

- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;

- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.

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Ultimately the people will decide what they want. It is very easy to hold opinions on immigration and different cultures when one lives in a county like Shropshire where ‘multi-culturalism’ means a Chinese takeaway on a Friday evening.

White liberal-Marxists are the only people on the face of our planet who denounce looking after one’s own interests as ‘racist’, and the irony of having an Asian lady, a Black lady and a Jewish man telling the English and British people there’s no such thing as ‘indigenous’ is a disgrace.

Philip Reddall
North Shropshire BNP

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Philip Redall, you said ultimately the people will decide what they want.

However, would you agree that most people will vote for people who tell the truth on prime time TV?

If you Google: ‘Channel 4 News Fact Check: BNP on Question Time’, you will see that your leader did not tell the truth on a number of occasions.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/factcheck+bnp+on+question+time/3397297

Could you comment on this?

And could you say whether you think your leader’s response about the Holocaust (transcript in #21) was convincing or not?

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Huw Peach said: Nov 2nd, 2009 at 12:28 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Home Guard, you said ‘the cry of racism & nazis … is wearing pretty thin now’.

If it IS wearing thin, then surely Mr Griffin could easily bat away accusations that he is a racist, that he denies the Holocaust, that he associates with KKK Nazis and that his all-white party wants an ethnically white Britain.

He didn’t.

Instead, the fact-checker I mentioned (#27) shows that he told porkie pies on prime time TV.

Is this the sort of politician you want representing Britain in the European Parliament, Home Guard?

Would you like people of other countries to associate our flag with a politician like this?

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Maybe ‘liberal luvvies’ and most decent, ordinary people in this country would actually prefer to be represented by people who demonstrably tell the TRUTH on prime time TV.

Maybe they believe in solidarity and don’t want to be represented by people who want to turn communities, families and individuals against each other.

The mainstream media, ‘liberal luvvies’ and most decent British people probably feel that it is more important to unpick the BNP’s past and present lies BEFORE dealing with BNP policies.

If Nick Griffin says that the Holocaust never happened and then on prime time TV says that he cannot explain why he said that or why ‘radio intercepts’ have changed his mind (see #21), then I think it is perfectly justified to call his supporters’ bluff in as public a way as possible.

Did you find your leader’s argument convincing, Home Guard?

You said, ‘in 2009, Mr Nick Griffin has stated he is not a Nazi, Fascist or Holocaust denier.’

On Question Time he SAID plenty of things, which the Fact Checker shows were not true.

Is this not important to you, Home Guard?

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