Sauce sachet too risky for deli staff

Friday 25th September 2009, 2:45PM BST.

Meet Tom Petty, the Shropshire Star's latest recruit. He'll be waging war on ridiculous red tape and ludicrous legislation. So if you have an example of bureaucracy gone mad or health and safety overkill, Tom wants to hear from you. Email him at tompetty@shropshirestar.co.uk

Meet Tom Petty, the Shropshire Star's latest recruit. He'll be waging war on ridiculous red tape and ludicrous legislation. So if you have an example of bureaucracy gone mad or health and safety overkill, Tom wants to hear from you. Email him at tompetty@shropshirestar.co.uk

You wouldn’t have thought a simple request to put some brown sauce on a bacon butty would cause too many problems.

But in these days of the dreaded health and safety, it would appear that simply isn’t the case.

Teacher Nick Hanna was left dumbfounded when a deli counter assistant told him she couldn’t open a brown sauce sachet for him – in case some of the sachet got in his sandwich and he held them responsible.

Mr Hanna said he asked for help with the sachet when he was at the counter at the Spar in Battlefield because he did not want to get sauce on his shirt and was hoping to save time.

But Mr Hanna, who had bought his sandwich from the store, said he was stunned when the assistant said she could not open it for health and safety reasons.

He said the assistant told him that if she opened the sachet and a piece of it went onto the sandwich and he ate it the store would be liable.

Mr Hanna was at the store shortly before 7am yesterday and the assistant had to carry the part-made sandwich over the counter for him to pour the sauce on before returning to the worktop to continue to make it.

Mr Hanna said he could not believe it had happened but he did sympathise with staff at the store.

And he also raised concerns about the UK’s increasing health and safety stance which has seen issues raised across the country over recent years.

He said: “I had to laugh, I had heard so much about the health and safety police but so far had managed to avoid most of them.

“I actually felt a bit sorry for the staff. It looked ludicrous but they obviously wouldn’t want to put their jobs at risk over a dabble of brown sauce.

“We’re trying to organise a school trip for 17 and 18-year-olds, at my school in Walsall, and we can’t take them to a local cinema without filling in a risk assessment about the dangers of getting on a public bus, so I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised. I managed to open the brown sauce sachet myself without any plastic falling into the sandwich and I’m still here alive to tell the tale.”

A spokesman for Spar today said it was unable to make a comment about the claims at this stage.

By Tom Petty


  1. 1
    English Exile

    The country has gone to pot completely.
    Everybody is frightened of their own shadows.
    You have Police that won’t do their jobs without senior officers do risk assessment first. Soon the fire Brigade won’t tackle a fire incase someone gets burnt.
    Your have currupt MP’s fiddling tax payers money.
    I am really glad I got out when I did.
    I did my own risk assessment too.
    I still live in Europe so I am still covered by the same laws.
    The diffence abroad is they haven’t made an industry out of H&S and they still USE COMMON SENSE.

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  2. 2
    KB

    What sort of person asks a member of staff to open a sachet for him because he doesn’t want to get any on his shirt? He is lucky he didn’t get told where to go! Stupid man.

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    Andrew finch

    Well it is all very silly but the uk has gone to pot. But saying all that it had to be a teacher didn’t it they have the class room assistant and every one else running around for them. Now out of the school they want some one to open a sachet of sauce incase it goes on his shirt. What ever next spoon fed and assisted to the lav……stupid man grow up…..

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  4. 4
    Andy

    Tom Petty is reporting for the Star. Have the Heartbreakers split up?

    Asking someone to open a sachet for you is a bit daft isn’t it?

    Was the customer 10 years old?

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  5. 5
    Dr Ian Wilkins

    cursading for common sense ?? I would say the Shropshire star is using daily mail style rhetoric to appeal to the lowest common denomenator in society and spread tales to sell papers – as a health and safety professional this form of journalism is offensive to my senses and i guess at least i will not have the risk of paper cuts in future as i wont be buying the star again!

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  6. 6
    AC

    If I worked in a shop and someone asked me to open some sauce for them because they didn’t want to risk spilling it on themselves, I’d have also made up some reason why I couldn’t do it! Obviously, it wasn’t ok for him to get sauce on his shirt but fine for the shop assistant to complete their shift covered in it? How arrogant can you get?

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  7. 7
    askeric dotcom

    First of all – It’s about serving a customer – AND when you run a business, the first thing you learn is to LOOK after your customers.

    Customers are HARD to find and EASY to lose.

    Now – Had it been say an older person suffering from arthritis – (and lets be honest – some sachets ARE hard to open) then I suspect that no-one would find the request that odd.

    HOWEVER – it seems in this situation that the “culprit” is a Teacher, who then goes on to use the lame excuse about not getting sauce on his shirt!

    So really … is this more to do with a “teacher” being unable to undertake a simple task,…. or is it about Health and Safety Rules?

    I think I know, (bearing in mind earlier posts about teachers) which one I’d go for !!

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  8. 8
    annon

    Its just an excuse to be lazy!!!! its like when you ask a shop assistant if there are any more of the item you want in the back – and they say no without even looking. britain is becoming lazier!

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  9. 9
    Screemer

    I have an even better one, My daughter is 17 and recently completed her phase 1 training in the Army. At 17 she had to live down Surrey, she passed all her exams in firing rifles with live ammunition, taught how to use bayonets in conflict situations, scaled heights of 5 meters climbing up ropes in her PT lessons and learnt how to land properly after jumping over 2 meter obsticles on the assault course.

    12 weeks into their training they spent a week at a privatly run adventure centre in Wales that the Army use. Upon her arrival the first thing she was told was that because she was under 18 she was NOT allowed to sleep on a top bunk in the dormitory due to insurance / health and safety reasons.

    Strange thing is the next day after she arrived they were climbing a 100 ft rock face and then absailing back down.

    What a society we live in…………………

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  10. 10
    nic hanna

    It was more about saving a bit of time and putting the sauce on at the most convenient moment, not so much about protecting my shirt but fair play, I’ll accept your comments in good spirit

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  11. 11
    Realist

    The problem is health and safety is a great idea and necessary. When it was carried out as part time function of other workers it was fine, but now its and industry trying to justify it’s existance.

    I work in an open plan office and adjacent to me is the health and safety section. Everyday I listen to them trying to come up with new rules to ‘protect’ us employees. The best one I heard recently was they were writing rules about company car use. They invented a new rule that no employee could use the company Sat Nav without first completing the training course for its use!! That had me in stitches for the rest of the day.

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  12. 12
    Andrew finch

    “It was more about saving a bit of time and putting the sauce on at the most convenient moment, not so much about protecting my shirt but fair play, I’ll accept your comments in good spirit”
    Well i will eat my hat if i had one, a teacher who can take a little banter with out shouting wheres my union fair play to him.

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  13. 13
    Simon

    What sort of adult goes straight to the local press with such an issue. This is nothing to do with H&S this is more to do with bog standard communication

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  14. 14
    Huw Peach

    Free Falling is your greatest song, Tom, but ‘Saving Grace’ on Highway Companion is nearly up there with it.

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  15. 15
    Morgan

    There just before 7am….doesn’t school start at 9am? That’s one big sandwich Nic!

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  16. 16
    Suellan Fowler

    Ha ha ha ha! It’s funny coz it’s got you all debating it!

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