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Demo over incinerator
Wednesday 6th May 2009, 5:59PM BST.
Placard-wielding campaigners are to protest outside a Shrewsbury council meeting in a bid to get plans for a £60 million waste incinerator on the edge of the town thrown out.
And at the same time, members of Shrewsbury Friends of the Earth will be lobbying politicians at a meeting at Battlefield – where Veolia wants to build the facility.
Campaigners will be outside the Guildhall for Shrewsbury Town Council’s meeting tomorrow at 6pm.
MEP Philip Bradbourn and MP Daniel Kawczynski will be at the Battlefield meeting.
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Jeeze i do wish some times these idiots would get a grip! ok so no waste incinerator? where’s ur rubbish going folks? HELLOOOOOOO! wakey wakey!!!!!
Cannot keep putting into the ground either so now what? oh i see you all want it in your back gardens and streets then? lol please have SOME common sense.
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First of all, sweet34, we could massively increase recycling and aim for zero-waste targets as they have done in Wales.
This will create MORE JOBS than incineration.
More than 2,400 jobs have been lost in Shropshire in the last 8 months ( http://www.shropshirestar.com/2009/04/22/budget-county-job-losses-mount/ ) and we need positive, sustainable policies, which tackle the big problems of the day, while creating sustainable jobs.
Then we could encourage more composting of household waste http://www.shropshirestar.com/2009/03/24/dishing-the-dirt-on-garden-habits/.
We could look at bio-digesters as they have in South Shropshire.
I think the common sense way out of the waste dilemmas we have is a sustainable one, which creates new jobs.
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could just recycle more too
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we should all make more effort to recycle
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good on them
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You have a point HuwPeach but not all waste can be recycled. What would you like to do with that portion of the refuse?
Also, I’d recycle more if I didn’t have to use my petrol belching out harmful fumes into the atmosphere traipsing around a half dozen recycling areas. If the council collect I’ll recycle it otherwise after my little red box is full (usually after a couple of days) it goes in the grey bin and thus to the ever increasing landfill.
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Suellan your attitude is VERY disappointing, if the maid didnt fetch your shoes no doubt you would go out round town bear foot?
people need to take personal responsibility, what you bring home with YOU from the supermarket is YOUR CHOICE, your waste.
If people like you make more effort to shop frugally and avoid supermarkets who over package items, there would be no need for a dirty burner to get rid of YOUR trash at great expense to us all. If your recycling box is full after a few days ring the council and get another one please – to put recyclable items into your landfill container in this day and age is morally disgraceful
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they are protesting for our future, CO2 emissions should be stopped, climate change is a massive threat to people and the planet, good luck to them
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Pete,
The planet will continue very happily regardless of what happens with climate change – it’s been around a long time you know…
As for recycling solving all of our problems, only approx 15% of all waste in the UK is household waste, so even if we could recycle 100% of our household waste it wouldn’t solve anything.
The key to making recycling levels higher is to make it easier for people to recycle, as many of our European partners do.
I’ve seen many scare stories suggesting that the incinerators planned for both Shrewsbury and Telford are bad for health, but no hard evidence to support any of these allegations.
People quote figures for older technology, or for incinerators in use in Third World countries, but where is the evidence that precisely the type of incinerator planned for here is going to be spilling large quantities of harmful emissions into the air?
There seems to be a mindset to ban everything on the basis that there might be a small risk involved. On that basis we would ban all cars (might get run over or killed in an accident), ban going to work (all that stress can’t be good for you) ban going on holiday (what if the plane crashes? Or you get some ‘foreign’ illness?).
Whilst the puritanical zealots of the green lobby would happily prevent us having many of these personal freedoms, most of us are prepared to accept a level of risk in our lives to allow those freedoms. In truth I don’t believe the alleged risk really comes into this – I think the eco-types simply won’t be happy until we’re all forced to think like them. Why else do they instantly shout down any suggestion, no matter how eminent the source, that they might be exaggerating the man made component of climate change?
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well said ed d (7)
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peter (9) to deny climate change these days is a bit like beleiving the earth is flat, i appreciate your opinion but you must accept its not the norm, you are a zealot who goes against the grain of virtually all the scientific opinion in the world,
climate change is man made, its real, its happening and its really dangerous, co2 is the main culprit and more recycling will help to reduce CO2, that’s science fact, yours is just hearsay, rumour and opinion
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Jim,
I see other scientific evidence, and I see the political agenda of the eco-types. We have only a couple of hundred years’ worth of accurate climate history data to rely on, yet we constantly hear extravagant claims such as that a new runway is going to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Who? Where? When?
There is evidence that scientists wishing to explore alternatives to the ‘man-made’ version of events are not able to access funding for research. We have been told by eco-warriors for many years that acopalyptic things were about to happen – in the ’70s I can remember them telling us that the oil would have gone by 2000 – still seems to be plenty about though. Then it was the ozone layer, lead in petrol, carbon monoxide in petrol, all have been dealt with.
I’m by no means a zealot, I just like to see the evidence from both sides of an argument – would that self appointed eco-warriors could do the same. I’m seriously concerned by the lack of balance, and the politicisation of the science by Green politicians.
We’re told that the glaciers have never melted like this before, and yet, in the Alps, bodies and artefacts have been found, revealed by the melting ice, that are just a few thousand years old. Where’s the explanation for that?
Even respected pro man-made climate change scientists are embarrassed by some of the hysteria provoked by so-called ‘green’ campaigners.
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its clearly not wanted by the people of shrewsbury
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Peter, no-one has said that recycling is ‘solving all of our problems’, but it is surely contributing to better eco-awareness locally.
What some people HAVE said is that we in Shropshire should be saying NO to the unsustainable idea of incinerating our waste and instead following the excellent example of the Welsh Assembly, which plans to recycle 70% of all waste by 2025, and achieve a “zero waste” target by 2050).
This will have the added benefit of providing MORE JOBS than incineration.
suellan fowler might be interested in the “Zero Waste” policy in Kamikatsu, a small town in eastern Japan.
The council decided to do this as it was cheaper and more environmentally friendly than buying an incinerator.
For information about the science behind residents’ health concerns, see Dr Paul Connett’s Powerpoint slideshow on the Shropshire Green Party website.
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Peter, do you think that we can carry on ad infinitum burying and burning our rubbish and ignoring the consequences?
Most people do not.
People in the UK are recycling 3 times more rubbish than they were 10 years ago.
And an average family can still double or even treble the amount they recycle and/or compost.
Supermarkets are competing with each other to produce less waste from their packaging.
Organic box delivery schemes, use of allotments, the expansion of composting and people growing their own vegetables are also contributing to less waste being produced in the first place.
The Freecycle Network helps people give away and get stuff for free in their own towns (thus reducing waste generation) and is easily found on the internet.
For local businesses trying to reduce their waste, the BREW programme, devised by Defra is helping businesses focus on waste minimisation, the diversion of waste from landfill and improvements to resource efficiency.
The National Industrial Symbiosis Programme (NISP) is linking companies to swap waste products which another could use as raw materials.
Envirowise offers UK businesses free, independent, confidential advice and support on practical ways to increase profits, minimise waste and reduce environmental impact.
Across the border in Wales, they are leading the way. They aim to increase recycling and composting rates to more than 50% by 2013, and then to 70% by 2025.
Expanding recycling and aiming for zero-waste targets will create MORE JOBS than incineration.
We should be following the excellent example set by the Welsh.
Would all these positive developments have come about without pressure from ordinary citizens, Peter?
And who does Peter suggest that Harlescott residents turn to in 27 years time if anonymous contributors like you turn out to be wrong about health concerns linked to incineration, and the campaigners turn out to be right?
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