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Protest over burner plans
Monday 19th January 2009, 1:42PM GMT.

Protesters from Telford PAIN and Safe Waste in Shropshire gatjher outside the Lantern Centre in Sundorne. Seen here are John Evans, Steve Boulding, Stephen Pessall, Sue Boulding, Ian Gregson, John Gough, Penny Gariner and Mo Gregson
Protesters wielding placards made a stand outside a Shrewsbury community centre where proposals for a new multi-million pound incinerator have been unveiled.
Members of Safe Waste in Shropshire and Telford Pain protested outside the Lantern Community Centre in Sundorne on Saturday.
Dozens viewed the plans, including Shrewsbury MP Daniel Kawczynski and his daughter Alexis.
The Tory lives downwind of the proposed site in Battlefield.
Veolia, which is behind the plans, says the burner would be able to produce energy from 90,000 tonnes of waste a year.
If the proposal is successful it would be completed and up and running by 2013.
But John Gough, of Safe Waste in Shropshire, said the burner would mean deteriorating health and increasing council tax bills for the county.
“Incineration as a means of disposal of household waste is recognised as an inefficient, outdated and environmentally damaging technology which is likely to threaten the health of people living under its cloud, which can stretch 15 miles from the sites,” he said.
Mr Kawczynski said he went along to the exhibition as a concerned parent as he lives near Bings Heath.
He said: “I went along to the Lantern centre with my daughter to scrutinise the proposals and express my dismay and frustration with the people behind it.
“I am concerned that the north Shropshire and south Shropshire Council members who dominate the Shropshire Waste Management Partnership have used Shrewsbury as a convenient dumping ground for this extremely controversial project. Why did they not consider putting the incinerator near their communities in places like Market Drayton, Oswestry or Ludlow?”
He said he had formally asked Shrewsbury and Atcham Borough Council leader Peter Nutting to look into the possibility of getting the application called in. Last week John Collis, of Veolia, said many fears over health risks were unfounded.
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as you can tell from the picture, its the “old people and goodie 2-shoes” that believe anything they read in the paper and what other people have made up. Shrewsbury isnt being used as a “dumping ground” its because theres plenty of space for development! John Gough is talking out of his, well you know the last word! Google waste incinerator, you will find everything about them and find out theres no 3-eyed fish or people with cancer living near them.
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hang the soap dodging socialists for their backwards veiws i say
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some should tell those people its bad for your health to stand around in the cold waving signs around by the road, someone may be tempted to run them over, for making a load of rubbish up about something that’s going to them good.
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How can burning medical waste be a good thing for the residents of the area?
Would you Mr. J be pleased with an incinerator next door?
You recommend people Googling information about the incinerator. Since when has google been a reliable source of information?
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Steven Gardiner, who said they will be burning Medical waste, that’s all done at the Hospital’s, this place is for domestic waste, and it the site isn’t near peoples homes.and if google isn’t a reliable source, then use other sources, your just all a bunch of nobodies who doesnt want things that will help and then blame the government that there not helping, well they are, its just everyone isnt helping there selves and are just concerned about things that havent been proved like mobile phone masts and cancer, and incinerators and fumes. Its really peeing me off, and I thing other people are really annoyed by the amount of people that just want to live in the 19th century, well lets put this straight, this a world that is needed and we need to sort things out like disposing of rubbish, if you don’t like plans for incinerators or mobile phone masts, then leave, stop wasting tax payers money for research and then standing outside protesting against incinerators or open mines or mobile phone masts. Welcome to the new age, don’t like it, go away, we welcome people who can help not who like things the way they are. Oh and dont moan about ricing fuel prices or no reception on your phone, its only yourselves you can blame!
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Mr J, do you think insulting and inciting violence against protesters, just because they feel moved to ask legitimate questions on behalf of all of us, helps or harms the pro-incineration case?
In a democracy, people who disagree should be listen to each other and treateach other with respect.
Surely their questions can be answered calmly and respectfully by people like yourself if the pro-incineration case is so strong.
The UK recycles only HALF of what the Germans do.
We should be massively expanding RECYCLING in an effort to preserve natural resources.
We shouldn’t be destroying wealth by sending it up in flames.
Could you explain WHY you disagree with me?
I am perfectly willing to be proved wrong if the arguments are good.
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look at the soap dodging lefties, shame on them, luddites
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Huw Peach, the rubbish will be burnt to create energy instead of burning coal, basically the incinerator works the same way as a normal coal power station. instead it burns waste and also extracts the metals to be recycled. anyone has a problem why don’t they moan about the ironbridge power station, its doing the same sort of job.
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Thanks for getting back, Mr J.
You say incineration will create energy.
Would you concede, though, that recycling SAVES energy, and that we should be expanding recycling in this country, which lags way behind our EU neighbours?
Would you also agree
a) that incineration undermines recycling?
b) that it is associated with toxic poisoning?
c) and that people are not keen on it ( http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/12/03/mps-survey-reveals-79-against-burner/ )
Even if the dioxin contamination will be small, would you not agree that some contamination will happen, that dioxins can be extremely harmful even in small quantities and that the protesters are right to raise health as an issue?
I notice that the Liberal Democrat prospective parliamentary candidate for Shrewsbury is a doctor.
In a letter to the Shropshire Star on October 30, 2008, he said,
‘There is good evidence from soil sampling that incinerators built over the last twenty or thirty years have increased the levels of toxic materials in the environment. The main serious pollutants from Municipal Waste Incinerators, and from hospital incinerators are dioxins which arise from burning plastics. The main pollutant from crematoria is mercury.
There is also evidence that suggests that there have been more stillbirths and fatal birth defects in areas close to incinerators and crematoria. This seems to be particularly true of older incinerators. The evidence cannot prove that these health problems are caused by pollution from the incinerators, but there is some likelihood that there is a link. The increase seems to be about one per thousand births.
In the circumstances it would seem to be irresponsible to build a new incinerator anywhere that is likely to expose pregnant mothers to the toxic waste.’
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they look like a throw back to the 60s hippies protesting all the time its a real shame
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tory boy why do you think 79% of respondents to this survey ( http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/12/03/mps-survey-reveals-79-against-burner/ )might be quite pleased there are people giving up their valuable free time to protest on their behalf?
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Huw Peach, there will be contamination, but less than putting the rubbish in a hole, recycling does use energy, but this is recycling, metals will get recycled, paper will get recycled in the same way as before, the only things burnt are the items that cant be recycled at the moment, e.g plastics, the plastic will get burnt and heat up steam turbines for energy, the fumes created off the plastic will get cleaned and filtered before being released into the enviroment.
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Mr J, I appreciate your more courteous tone now and will therefore respond to your points.
However, I feel that the pro-incineration side -on the Shropshire Star threads at least – has been harmed by the rudeness of its proponents and its dismissive approach to widely felt health concerns.
Mr J, you say that plastics cannot be recycled at the moment.
According to the ‘RECOUP (RECycling Of Used Plastics Limited)’ website this is NOT the case.
RECOUP is the national body for development of sustainable plastics packaging recycling in the UK, and it is backed by organisations across the packaging supply and recycling chain.
Could you comment on this, Mr J?
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You doged my question, Mr J, asking if you would like to live next door to an incinerator. Regardless if you consider the environmental matters an issue, one sure thing is that a burner such as this dramaticaly reduces house prices. Wikipedia has an article on the arguments against such burners, the link is here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incinerator#The_argument_against_incineration
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To Steve Gardiner: I do know of people who live next to incinerators and they own the houses, the incinerator was built in the 70′s. If I was to live near an incinerator, it wouldnt bother me, what about the people who live above shops, like take aways and chip shops.
To Huw Peach: If plastics can be recycled then why dont the council let us recycle them, you should put that forward.
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You can drop plastic bottles off at Battlefield Recycling Centre, MrJ.
Now we need door-to-door plastic bottle collection all over Shropshire as they have in other parts of the country.
I think the difficult economic times that we are experiencing are encouraging many of us to ask fundamental questions about the way we operate as a society.
As we can no longer bury waste in the ground indefinitely, how can we reduce waste?
When are zero-waste policies going to become widespread?
Do we need to produce so much plastic waste?
If the Irish can ban plastic bags, why can’t we?
Should we really be sending our wealth up in flames, when we could be re-using it or recycling it?
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