A road?

Does that not go against all that Telford & Wrekin stands for?

Surely we should all be walking, using bicycles on the cycle paths or,if we must, use buses which could run on the current roads linking Madeley and Sutton Hill.

I am sure T&W told us we must avoid cars as they are evil polluting devices and will destroy the world.

Can I assume that all these possibilities have been considered before we embark on building a road – one which would presumably have a bus lane, lots of traffic lights and of course some black drain pipes sticking up out of the ground to obscure visibility.

Wake up T & W and deal with the current problems you created before embarking on another silly scheme!!

What does the Carbon Awareness Project Team think to this??

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Consider £20k on a feasability study. They said it would started in 3 to 6 months time in Feb 2007 and this money is to come from the BTI budget.

When are they going to start spending the £2 million they sau they have for Sutton Hill, again said in Feb 2007.

Now stage three regeneration for woodise has stopped, I suppose they’ll realocate those funds, but this is a half hearted measure of the Administration to try and gain some credibility, which they have well and truely lost.

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Rather than having a new road linking the two centres, how about a better bus service to the two i.e. one that goes direct, rather than all around the houses in Woodside and Sutton Hill.

I sign on in Telford as it takes me less time to get there by bus than it does to get to Madeley centre, even though Madeley is nearer, in real terms!!!!

Also, as mr j says, there are already roads linking the two, if I remember rightly ;)

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keep sutton hill folke in sutton hill I say….

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It will just make it easier for the Sutton Hill gangs to take on the Madeley gangs and vice- versa. Not my problem for much longer thankfully.

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I wasn’t making a case for it Andy – to be honest I think it’s a pretty half-baked scheme. As you point out, such a route would bypass existing bus stops at Hill Lane and along the Bridgnorth Road – which must generate at least half the passengers in that area.

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Y Mab – do you live in Telford? If you do could you tell us which of the council’s plans you support? Or is this a windup?

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Y Mab. Its not criticism – its a fact that they said one thing, then another, but then did something completely different. It’s a fact stage 3 regeneration at woodside has stopped with about half an estate regenerated. Its a fact they say they have £2 million for Sutton Hill but have not yet even decided how the money is to be spent or where it is coming from. The BTi is under threat and things like Council tax promises of being below or at 3% might not happen. Its pointing out they say one thing, then do not do it. Don’t just read a single press article, remember the history leading up to it. Suspect what you want, you are clearly not informed in what I have said and done, and clearly not aware that I have supported the Council on a number of issues, but when its not delivering, i’ll say that also.

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John Franklyn – its pouring good money after bad trying to redevelop Sutton Hill, Woodside, Brookside etc. I can see why the Council does not want to plough money into those area’s.

Those estates are all mistakes from the 60′s and 70′s era in my view they should be demolished and built up from the ground maybe luxury houses, apartments etc to attract professionals and big businesses to telford

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Rob – for £20K I will happily meet you for a coffee and a chat.

If that £20K chat would save yet another nonsensical scheme going ahead it would be money well spent.

However, as John Franklyn points out the council have already spent lots of our money on studies and feasability projects which come to nothing.

I wonder who is doing the studies – would they be consultants by any chance – and if so can I buy shares in their companies – or have they already been bought by other interested parties?

Perhaps the Auditors would like to look into it – or would their report be as wet and weak as the one regarding the penguins with CRB checks fiasco!!

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John Franklyn – The problem with social housing is 99% of the time – undesirables move into social housing.

This is not me knocking the lower classes but it is a reflection on the sad state of out country and the over reliance on the benefits system this country has become.

In a ideal world throwing money at Sutton Hill and Woodside would improve the estates but we do not live in a ideal world until the benefits system is reformed, improving run down estates is simply a waste of money which can be better spent elsewhere

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Y Mab Darogan said:

“I support many of T & W plans.

ie

The Telford town park scheme”

Which “Town Park Scheme” – the one to build on a large part of it?

“Those estates are all mistakes from the 60’s and 70’s era in my view they should be demolished and built up from the ground maybe luxury houses, apartments etc to attract professionals and big businesses to telford”

So presumably the people who live on those estates are also a mistake – where exactly do you think they’re going to live?

“The problem with social housing is 99% of the time – undesirables move into social housing.”

ah, so now we know – 99% of people in social housing are undesirables. Perhaps you can tell us where the people are going to live who build the “luxury houses, apartments etc to attract professionals and big businesses to telford”

PS – I don’t know what you do for a living, but as a partner in a small business I can tell you that your inability to cope with basic grammar and spelling would lead most potential employers to rule you out as a candidate for a job interview.

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You’ve never heard of a successful SMALL business then Y Mab?

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Rob, telford – most successful small businesses become BIG businesses.

As you are still a small business I must assume that you are unsuccessful or not very ambitious to expand.

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I worked as a teenager on Sutton Hill and Woodside when they were being built and even then almost all locals predicted they would become slums very quickly. I live in South Africa and we have our problems but local gangs only exist in poor townships. I would have hoped that Telford and other areas would have loooong ago passed that stage,sad really,its why I would rather have my son grow up in Africa than England.

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There is nothing in Madeley to attract visitors from Sutton Hill, and vice versa.

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“There is nothing in Madeley to attract visitors from Sutton Hill, and vice versa.”

if you look at http://www.madeley.org.uk/regeneration.htm

you will see madeley will soon be worth visiting

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