Its just a little insignificant hill, honestly *tut*

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Lucy W – The Wrekin is the most iconic hill in the entire of Shropshire, please show a little respect huni

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Y Mab: Its not like its an AONB or SSSI – its a commercial forest plantation.

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I agree with you missmarie a lady after my own heart

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Lucy you may be joking (its hard to tell from text) but the Wrekin is both a SSSI and an AONB. I think we have established that you aren’t a fan but that doesn’t mean thousands of other people aren’t.
I say yes for a visitor center even if its funded by parking charges which aren’t likely to be as high as the town centre for example. As for the open cast mine I’m undecided, sure it will be ugly but it’ll only be there for three years, will get rid of any existing mine shafts and will be restored to agricultural use in the long term.

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i agree with Miss in that we should enjoy it as it always has been. Stick a visitor centre by all means, but dont expect every tax payer to pay for it. Let it be a Private Initiative.
But everyone seems to want public money for a visitor centre to private land!
Lets face it, its not really anything special is it?
I think they should gradually build up, starting with a burger van to test the water if they really must do something.
As for toilets – its covered in trees!

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concrete county ?

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That Y Mab Darogan, he’s so fickle….after anything in a skirt …. lol

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So the Wrekin should remain untouched? Great let’s get that monstrous mast from the top and at least that way the anti-mobile phonemast contingent can rest easy in their lead enveloped beds, it also means we won’t we have to put up with the tripe that is transmitted over the tv and local radio.

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the wrekin is an icon of shropshire, yes to a visitor centre and discreet toilets and a big no to any form of mining. this should be common sense for all salopians even the councils.

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Wasn’t it suggested that after the Open Coal mine had finished, the land would or could be sold for the development of “Affordable Housing”. I know it was suggested at one of the “consultations”. The chances are that should the open cast happen, the area will never be the same afterwards.

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We should have toilets where toilets exist, and could be renovated at less cost to local taxpayers, after all, to relieve yourself in public is against the law of the land and can incur a fine of around £80, so why are the visitors to the Wrekin being encouraged by the lack of council maintainence of the existing toilet block to break the law?
Hundreds of thousands of taxpayer pounds have been spent on fighting a radio mast that should never have gone up next to a skatepark in Malinslee, knowing full well a mast was proposed for the site, yet they cannot afford to give people basic facilities to relieve themselves without breaking the law – I am sure this must go down well with tourists visiting our local landmark, they must think we are a very backward people to not even have loos.
Shame on you Telford and Wrekin Council.
Pat.

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Y Mab: Well I did win the lottery but they wanted more than £10 for it – well over priced.
£5 seems a bit steep, would there be concessions for pensioners, children and people on benefits?

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I should not worry about the 300 plus houses planned for the Northern site of the Opencast mine after it has been stripped of coal, more about the merger between Uk Caol and Peel Energy, allowing Peel to use “Nonn viable commercial land from Uk Coal stocks for sites for windfarms, (Which uk coal has already identified 14 nationwide). Once the coals gone, the lands no longer viable so comes under Peels investigations. Each site is planned to have 54 wind turbines of undisclosed height, and with a lease of 30 years – make the row over the Wrekin toilets look like small potatoes?
Fight the mine plan, no coal out, no windfarm or houses after – its up to you.
Pat.

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In this province as well as other parts of Canada access to pristine areas is often regulated ..this is an attempt to disturb the fauna and flora as little as possible.

Usually there is a booking arrangement – as much as a year in advance to visit certain areas. Domestic animals are, of course, not permitted and the idea of leaving litter behind in the wilderness is – just not acceptable.
There is often a fee to hike in National Parks of $5 a day or $60 a year – depending on the park – but no parking fee!
In spite of the size of this country we, nevertheless, have the same problems regarding mining and other human activity affecting the environment. One of our (arguably) most beautiful park areas – Jasper and Banff national parks are under threat from opencast mining – which will severely affect wildlife habitat particularly grizzly.

I would treat Shropshire’s Wrekin with all the respect it deserves. There are so few ‘wild’ areas left in your county – they must be preserved whatever the cost.

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My goodness, what is all this talk, mines, houses, public toilets and the like. To me the Wrekin, as some rightly say, is an “icon”, always was and always will be to those who have a love of their home county.

From the early 1950s ( way before everyone had one car let alone 2 or 3) after travelling all over the globe, I used to get the train from Paddington and as soon as it reached Wolverhampton, I knew I was on the home stretch, I would be at the carriage window waiting for the first sighting of the Wrekin and I knew I was home.

Before then as a Scout we roamed all over it, camped and lived the life that kids today can only dream about. For days on end we wouldn’t see another soul up there and it was a really “wild” place.

In the 1970s, I lived in Telford Road, Wellington just below the Ercall, the old Forest Glen had gone or was on the way out to the Museum and the Wrekin itself was starting to show all the signs of wear and tear with litter around the lower slope etc.

Leave it alone, it doesn’t need anything except respect, regard for nature and wild places and concern for it’s long term environment.

The way things are going, 50 years time – I shudder to think what this country will be like. We are ruining it by the day. I wonder how far up the Wrekin they will be able to build and put new roads if they do have their way.

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Kate: Take you dog poo home with you – bins spoilt the place. Why should tax payers pay for poo bins to be emptied when we dont use them? Thats why the National Trust nolonger have bins in the countryside.

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y mab i agree with every word you say and when you do win the lottery, hopefully soon, please install a very discreet lift for the less nimble amongst us or should they suffer a viewing platform at the base of our iconic hill

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devon salopian – I think a lift would not be correct for the less nimble to get up the Wrekin.

I would attach a cable car from the Ercal to the Wrekin.

and charge 10 pounds per trip. I have also been thinking that a artificial ski slope up the west side of the Wrekin would also work and increase rev

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