Excuse me exactly how has Cameron proved he has what it takes to be PM this week?

I for one have not seen him in the US trying to sort out the US mess? or consulting with other world leaders.

However I have seen Brown doing this.

All huff and puff and no substance Mr Cameron. D for effort, ungraded for actual work

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The most stupendous Conference speech I have heard from any political leader for many, many years. Incredible, nothing can take that away from Cameron. He had the audience spellbound this afternoon and said the things decent people in this country wanted to hear.
Darogan obviously saw and heard a different speech than me but perhaps that was his bias to the BNP coming through, sorry Darogan, Cameron wants a fair and decent society and he wants the support of fair and decent people, not the type who find good things to say about the BNP.
What impact on the “US Mess” do you think Brown had, do you think this inarticulate, “mess maker” cut an impression with that other idiot George Bush.
Blair had no experience before becoming PM, neither did Brown, neither did many, many more before making Prime Minister but Cameron is something else, he has seen the Brown “experience” and suffered from it the same as the rest of us. His “experience” tells him not to be like Brown in any way, thank god.
The good times are on the way so we can look beyond this grey, depressing, class conscience clique to when we get a referendum on the EU, our “broken”, “anything goes” society is treated and people can at least begin to take pride in themselves, their country and the society which has been so shamefully degraded by New Labour. Let’s have an election now, (but perhaps not, let Brown get us out of the financial mess he has made for us first).

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On the bright side his missus does a nice line in handbags what more could a prospective PM need!!!!!!

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What did Cameron prove apart from confirming he’s a boring, out-of-touch flop who’s yet to spend a day in the real world?
Back to the drawing board, Davey boy.

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There are some serious issues to be solved here.

Alternating between several terms each of conservative, labour, conservative, labour, as we have seen over the last 60 years is not going to make any difference.

What is needed IS a difference, one that concentrates on British values, and particularly one that rolls back substantially the overbearing nanny state culture we have become.

An EU referendum, no ID cards, Less spy camras everywhere, proper policing re-instated with local police stations reopened, etc I don’t hear much about any of this …

and…

The present credit crunch crisis, which has focussed so much attention on Banks, attention which manufacturing industry never got when “it” was being decimated, and thrown to the wall ….. has unfortuately diverted attention away from those more serious issues.

Not Cameron, Brown, or anyone is up to the Job at the moment.

Some serious thinking is required!!!

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askeric dotcom, I agree with you when you say what is needed but who would you recommend?.

The only one who is even going to give us half of what you say is Cameron. If we go back to “experienced” Brown, we just get more of the same, no thank you. If you heard Cameron’s speech, you will have heard that the nanny state will be rolled back. He touched on virtually everything you mention. The recent Cabinet reshuffle has shown us that as opposed to learning a lesson from the Bliar years, Brown wants them to return by bringing back in those who were at the heart of the sleaze, deceit, spin and chicanery that so demeaned us as a people.

I have a simple philosophy, I will never vote for the Liberal Democrats, the BNP or any of the small fringe parties, that leaves Labour and the Conservatives. I voted for the John Major Government which turned out to be an utter disaster, the only alternative was Labour, so I voted for Bliar. He started what turned out to be the biggest disaster to hit this country since the year dot.

The Conservatives cannot possibly do worse than this Labour lot so I will vote for them and I genuinly believe that they will turn us around if Cameron is true to his word. If they get in and they turn out to be a disaster, I will vote Labour the next time. It is a question of “checks and balances”, one undoing the bad work of the other, whichever party it is. That is democracy.

To know that a Government or party is in the wrong, and if we are honest we do know in our heart of hearts, and then to still vote for them, is the height of undemocratic irresponsibility and foolishness. I agree our choice is limited but this present lot cannot go on. I would rather not vote at all if there were no Conservatives to vote for.

As for the Nelson’s of this world, the Conservatives are men and women like you or I, to talk of public school “flops” etc is to indicate that those who do so, have one big chip on their shoulder, lack confidence in their own standing and ability, are envious of others who have done better than themselves and are inverse “class conscious”, unambitious, old fashioned souls who deserve their position in society which they seem determined to hold onto.

I came from a Council House and proud of it, left Secondary Modern School at 15, worked as a dogsbody for some years earning a pittance, then my employer granted me a scholarship to Aberystwyth University where I studied Law and got an Ll.b (Hons) with a 1st. I am proud of this and my background, my dad was Labour through and through.

I have an accent, pure Shrewsbury and have no plum in my mouth. I regard myself as good as anybody, don’t look down on Conservatives and don’t expect them to look down on me which they don’t. To speak of the Conservatives in a “class conscious” way is to disregard the fact that many in this Labour Government and Party also went to Public Schools and sent their children to private/public schools. To regard this as a bar or an adversity to a life in politics says more about those who do than those to whom they refer.

Labour have brought this country in many many ways, to the brink of utter disaster. To continue with them is to continue along that same road until we reach the “armaggedon” that has recently been used in America to describe Bush’s time in office, I repeat, Cameron will stop the route that Brown and Co have set us on.

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