council tax is a rip off anyway!

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surely pro-rata this by population and look at it in context hey?

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any house hold who will not pay there council tax, the council should have the power to turn there electric and gas off and not empty there bins or let there kids go to local council run schools until they pay the council tax, i pay mine direct debit,i don’t want to but if everyone paid there tax, the tax might stay the same for a couple of years,it’s time to stop pussy footing around these parasites and start getting tough,board there houses up.

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Besty – Have you heard of something called human rights?

The right to have energy, heating, rubbish collected, education is mandatory in the european human rights bill.

In my view we should’nt have to pay council tax we pay enough tax via our wages, vat on goods.fuel etc. I for one would like to know where all the money raised via those taxes are spent.

My guess would be on wars we should not be involved ie Afghanistan and Iraq

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scrap it and replace with local income tax and prosecute those who can pay but don’t

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The collection of overdue council tax goes on well after the accountancy year end,I know,I had the bailiff knocking on my door.
Although Id paid my council tax in one lump T+W made a “clerical Error” and did not realise they had done so.
The end result was a court judgement against me with a warrant for the bailiff to call and collect the fictitious overdue amount.
all was sorted out with an apology (extracted) so trust me,the people that owe council tax will have to become invisible to escape payment

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Of course, if council tax were replaced by a local income tax and “local VAT” – you couldn’t easily evade it ..

and …

ALL people , not just one person in each household, would thus pay and, ALSO, if a local VAT were imposed, then visitors using facilites would also contribute by way of purchases –

so if..

The SAME expenditure is made by the council, then..

Each person will pay a lot LESS, becuase more people are paying into the pot …. and no one is evading it !!

simple eh?

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Andy (Gnosall) They must have some ingenious way of not paying I reckon. If I miss one payment by 3 or 4 days I get red letters, phone calls from the council, threats of court action.

But maybe because I own my home they know that I will pay up so I’m a easy target.

Perhaps people who live in other accomodation are not so easy to make pay up so they don’t bother trying.

If so then how is that fair – and why should I pay more council tax to make up for those who get away without paying?

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Hi Rpt Barrington Black.

I understand your points, and no system is ideal.

YES – I DO remeber the raising of VAT from 15 to 17.5% to offest the impact of changing the “rates” to council tax – AND,

I have to ask – what IS the difference between the rates and council tax?? – apart from jacking up VAT by 2.5% … not a lot it would seem.

However … moving back to local income tax and VAT,….

The WHOLE point here is to get a system where EVERYBODY pays in some way, and NOT just one person in each househould, as it is at present.

I have had for years, 4 perfectly able adults in my house, ALL earning a wage, and it’s only ME that gets the Council Tax bill – and it would be me that goes to jail if it doesn’t get paid ! … HOW can that be fair?

And.. lets think about this…

What is the “average” number of wage earning persons per houshold on a county wide basis??

Probably 2 or greater?

In that example alone, ignoring a contribution of local VAT… if Council tax were replaced by local income tax – that would mean a reduction of 50% per person straightaway!
…..
(Assuming greedy councils don’t seize the opportunity to raise expenditure!)

And .. Of course people might go elswhere if the VAT or sales tax were a different rate, but I really think this is a spurious argument, becuase apart from regular purchases, what about visitors? They aren’t going to travel out of town just becuase their lunch bill is a bit cheaper etc??

Surely the idea of EVERYONE contributing to the the SAME SIZE cake is better than, as I say, just one person per household?

And so – if the CAKE is the SAME size, and split into a greater number of portions, then each portion is smaller – hence we EACH end up paying a LOT less!!

simple eh ?

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