Blog: Schumacher never needed excuses before…
Wednesday 22nd June 2011, 8:27AM BST.
Blog: Over on the BBC website, there is a piece by F1 editor Andrew Benson, whose blogs and opinion columns seem to attract comments exhibiting cloying sycophancy or feather-spitting vitriol, with nothing in between.
His latest piece revolves around an ever-controversial topic – that of the motorsport monolith that is Michael Schumacher, and the responses therein are as borderline sectarian as ever.
If you’re not aware of the great man’s achievements at the pinnacle of racing, here’s a brief summary:
Seven world championship titles, two more than the next closest contender in history, Juan Manuel Fangio, and also two more than the combined number of titles lifted by the four other world champions on the current grid.
Ninety-one Grand Prix wins, one short of the total of Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna’s victories combined.
Sixty-eight pole positions, again a record.
That he is statistically the most successful driver the sport has ever seen is not open to question. That he is the best is, of course, subject to debate.
Having retired from Formula One on a high at the end of 2006, there was feverish excitement when he announced he would be returning for three years with the new Mercedes team, world champions at the time, starting in 2010.
Schumacher’s performances are constantly under scrutiny because, with that level of achievement as a precedent, anything other than victory isn’t really on the menu each Grand Prix weekend. It’s like the Beatles releasing a new LP in 1973 and saying ‘If it makes the Venezuelan Top 40 we’ll be happy.’
This piece may have the invidious whiff of a polemic about it and for good reason: I personally never liked Schumacher. I hated his soporific domination of the sport and the fact that my compatriot Eddie Irvine was forced to play second fiddle to him for four seasons (although most of the time he was miles behind anyway).
I also loathed his recourse to winning at any cost, instantly putting me in the same pigeonhole as people like Stirling Moss who think that sportsmanship is important and men wearing straw boaters should open car doors for their lady friends. So I was glad to see the back of him.
However, I cannot deny the man’s staggering raw talent. So when he decided he was coming back, I was older and wiser and have to admit that I was quite pleased. With three seasons having passed, plenty of time for the Bionic Man to require a squirt of WD40 in his joints, the scenario looked all the more interesting. How would he compare to the likes of Hamilton and Vettel?
Well, we all know. Not very well.
I don’t care for the plethora of excuses that the army of Schumi-lovers have trotted out to explain this: he’s old, the cars have changed and his Mercedes isn’t in the same league as the Red Bull or McLaren, and so on.
These are all valid arguments. But in his first career Michael was only behind his team mate, regardless of whom that may have been, on the occasions when they were queuing for the canteen. Nowadays, with equal equipment, he is outclassed by his young team-mate Nico Rosberg more often than he returns the favour.
Michael never needed excuses before, but now he reaches for them at the drop of a Deutsche Vermogensberatung cap. 2010 was the first full season in which he had recorded not a single win, pole position, podium finish or fastest lap.
A year ago I compared Schumacher to a father bursting into his son’s 18th birthday party and trying to prove that he’s ‘still got it’ by downing shots of Jagermeister and gyrating with any women in attendance. Kind of sad.
Schumacher, no matter what anyone says it, has not still got ‘it.’ ‘It’, in his case, being peerless success and the unnerving ability to dominate his team-mate to such an extent you get the impression they’d give him their last pair of clean socks if he asked for them. Yes, he is still an excellent, solid driver, but so is Nick Heidfeld.
In last weekend’s Canadian Grand Prix, we saw the first flash of what made the old Schumacher so great. I will admit that I wanted him to finish on the podium, for reasons of nostalgia if nothing else. But he slid to fourth in the closing stages. How much of this was down to him personally is probably negligible, but I maintain that one decent performance does not a successful comeback make.
I made a comment on Mr Benson’s F1 blog to the same effect and was immediately accused by another user of being ‘incredibly ignorant.’
Ignorant of what? The unwritten rule that requires everyone to mouth platitudes about a comeback that has quite clearly been embarrassingly substandard?
I’ll brace myself for the responses.
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He was fourth for a start !
I hope your not getting paid for this.
Its very easy to be negative but he has had some strong races and his wheel to wheel combat has been great.
The one lap qualifying has been disappointing but his race craft has been excellent outshing boring boring rosberg who is very very quick in qualifying in a 4 wheeled dog.
Who was it who made the most passes in the first lap last year or this year ? guess
sunday saw for the first time a car schumacher was driving on even par to the redbulls , guess what happend ?
yep your right
so before you read your monday newspaper sitdown and analyse a race and then write another column with the wrong results.
Thankyou and good night
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If you never were a Schumi fan why would you become one now? At least you give credit to his achievements if nothing else.
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I wish that people who take up valuable column inches would be F1 fans instead of people who just watch the odd race and don’t understand the complexities, the technicalities and the staggering skill required to man handle those fantastic prototype machines around the best tracks in the world. Usually the top ten are split by around two seconds. 1…..2! that’s it. That’s what you are judging. Currently Schumacher is at the the third dot and if he can get to one dot he will be right at the pointy end. Have you seen him push that car, getting more out of it than it can give him. Overtake on the first lap, wheel to wheel like he never left? I have! and so have millions of others. I want to put this to bed once and for all. Schumacher is back ! He looks sharp his telemetry reads good he isn’t scared and is again giving his all. Ross says he is as fit as ever and his reaction times are just the same.His car just needs that one dot. That tiny blink of an eye in speed that will take him to where he should be and shut you shuey bashers up once and for all !
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Mark Hughes, as good and as technically-minded an F1 journalist as you will ever find, said last year that Schumacher was no longer able to pivot the car through the corners with his superhuman ability to modulate the throttle and the brake. That, he said, was the clearest indication yet that he was not ‘back.’
People are so blinded by their love of Schuey that they can’t admit to their own disappointment.
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This year he can be seen by anyone with eyes that he is pushing the car hard.
Last year was last year. I wasn’t referring to last year. He obviously was a little rusty last year that I do agree with, but this year I do believe he is back to somewhere near his best and that, given the right car will be enough to see him at the pointy end a lot more often.
True schuey fans wont be disappointed and weren’t silly enough to think he could come straight back in and start winning with a new small team. He lies to do it this way, build around him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gives it five years and emulate what he did at Ferrari and then leave the team with a winning car
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‘True schuey fans wont be disappointed and weren’t silly enough to think he could come straight back in and start winning with a new small team.’
Yes they were, and even Michael himself said his aim was an eighth world title. That was the whole point of the above article, and his comeback: why would a man who had achieved his level of success want to come back and not even make the podium?
Plus I wouldn’t call a major manufacturer-backed outfit who were the current constructors’ champions a ‘small team’ either.
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I personally was Mika Hakkinen fan, A man who fought with dignity and fairplay. Mika Hakkinen was the only man in my mind that ever really took the fight to Michael Schumacher, I used to hate Michael Schumacher, but i loved there rivalry, Hakkinen and Schumacher had some unbelievable battles, Most notably Spa and Suzuka 2000, They were nose to tail for nearly the whole japanese grandprix, Seperated by only 9000′s of a second in qualiyfying. Schumacher love him or hate him is the best there was, but still has to prove that hes the best there is! I was overwhelmed with excitement when schumacher announced his return, i think everyone likes a comeback, especially one of this drivers calibre, Michael Schumacher rising from the ashes to take back his world title after 3 yrs out, you couldnt write such a book, However the book is still work in progress, still being written. But i personally am glad to see Michael back, and i watched with great pleasure in canada as michael schumacher ate all the other drivers alive in the wet, had not made a mistake with his pit stop from wet to inters before the race was red falgged, we could of been talking about michaels return to winning ways. Like i say, im not michaels biggest fan but the man is back, Hes no going to just up and leave the sport, His contract with Mercedes is up next season, but we all know that there are openings at the moment with Mclaren if Jenson Button goes to Ferrari and if Lewis Goes to Red Bull, Whos to say that michael wont go to Mclaren, They have always wanted to sign michael, Also Ferrari is an open door too! When Massa gets binned next year, he might go back to ferrari or even red bull so lets not write him off just yet, I personally hope to see Michael win one last championship for old times sake! Just one more from the main man!
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Did you took like 3 months before the last Canadian GP to compose this article and missed out the staggering pace michael has put up? I’m not calling you an ignorant but instead a nerd that very good in grammar but crap in sports technical knowledge, or maybe you don’t even watched the race! Tailgating a red bull racer with half a second before crossing the finish line is the fact that overhauls people that say Shumi has “lost it”.
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If you want to be a serious writer, please try to make at least one point.
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I think the point was that, although the guy acknowledges that Schumacher was the best driver in his first career, everyone still seems to think that he’s driving as well as ever. He bloody well isn’t, since 2010 and 2011 are the first times in his history he hasn’t thumped his team-mate into the middle of next week. Forget the excuses about the car, the tyres, etc. The first comparison in F1 is one’s team-mate, and if MS is behind him more often than he’s in front, or even as many times, then he’s not quite the titanic deity he was before.
Some people don’t seem to let reality get in the way of a good moan, like the guy who thinks Schuey will take five years at Merc and make them champs again? He’ll be 46 by then. This isn’t the 1950s!
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I would have hoped that an F1 journalist should have known to refer to SIR Stirling Moss.
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I strongly believe michael has still got everything that the best racing drivers require to win races and championships.
His performance was pure skill in canada, jb and mark were in far faster cars and had the advantage of drs to pass however schumacher still clinged on to webers gear box to finish less that half a second behind.
Ross and norbert have all said that if they can give him a car that can challenge he will put it to best use.
Both him and nico are currently equal on points, nico having had better opportunities due to michael having to retire from 2 races whereas nico retired from 1 so far.
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TOTALLY AGREE WITH SPEEDING FROG
Watch out for schumi
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I think this guy make hamilton cry very soon
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I’m not schumacher fan but the was poorly written and poorly researched. There is NO WAY you could have done a Communication Degree with your skills at prose.
No doubt, just like those that do a 2 month Photoshop course and are now “photographers” or those that do a 1 week design course and are a “designer”, your a weekend warrior blogger who should be neither seen nor heard.
This is less about schumcaher and the prevalence of zero talents that should not be writing who flood the net with their “blogs”.
Want some advice – go back to uni, learn how to be a actual print journo and then feel free to comment.
We have the internet to thank for some many great things…oh the joy. Amateur bloggers with an opinion, er no, please go away.
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Patric,
I’m getting a strong smell of internet troll from you. Your first sentence -poorly written and poorly researched.
Like you say, we have the internet to thank for ‘some great many things’ does that include people who have nothing but criticism to offer to someone who shares his writing on the web?
Some advice, don’t comment unless you have something constructive to add.
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Patric. Are you pleased with yourself?
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well well well – the greatest racing driver that ever lived and living legend Michael Schumacher finally shuts his critics up with a mega race (Canada)
and we have morons like the guy who wrote this artcicle already on the ”attack” mode …
huh !
what’s a matter ? Is that fear that I smell ?
Fear that Schumacher is back on his game ?
Guess what jack , he’s tied on points with his teamate …. Prediction for you :
Michael Schumacher will be the FIRST Mercedes GP driver to record a WIN …..
he’s coming baby – watch out
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Greatest and most succesful in my opinnion are different, Senna=GREAT Schumacher=Succesful, Schumacher may be the most succesful F1 driver but he is not the greatest.
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‘I’m not schumacher fan but the was poorly written and poorly researched.’
The sweet, sweet, irony.
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I’m with this man, and i’m also with Eddie Irvine, Michael Schumacher “has just lost his talent”. Go home Michael Schumacher!!
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senseless article
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To all the Schumi haters, that is what I think of you: When life makes you have to put up with mean and hateful people, think of them as sandpaper. They may scratch you, rub you the wrong way, but eventually.. you end up smooth and polished and the sandpaper is just going to be worn out and ugly. Go Schumi Go!!!
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While I genuinely admire your analogical skills, I hardly think an article that tips its hat to all of Schuey’s achievements and admits the presence of his ‘staggering raw talent’ can be called ‘mean and hateful’
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I think you guys are being very critical of Schumacher. The 2011 season has done a decent job given the equipment he currently uses. Yes, Nico Rosberg has done a better job during qualifying this year, but in terms of racing, he has been dueling with and against everyone. The points says it all, and he is actually ahead of Nico, though it’s tied at 26 a piece. In Monaco, he would have had more points, but his car failed him. Let’s see how he does in the next few races as the clampdown of diffusers with slow everyone down. In conclusion, he came back because he is a competitor with rare qualities. He’s in the same stature as Michael Jordan is to basketball.
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I believe Schumacher himself did not expect these tough times for him and his team when he signed up in 2010. After all, Brawn GP were the title winners in 2009 and were expected to continue their domination under the new name.
However, I think we all agree that Mercedes is way behind Red Bull, McLaren, and Ferrari. And Schumacher is not the one to blame for that.
Schumacher was outclassed by Nico in many races, and that is a fact. Nevertheless, we must remember the technical aspects involved, and that drivers within the same team face different issues with their cars even though they have the same setup. And I believe the Mercedes team is in a better position than us all to judge whether Schumacher’s issues were down to his car or his ability.
We need not jump to conclusions now. Let the Mercedes team develop their car and let us see some winning performances. Only then can we have a meaningful comparison of Schumacher and his team mate, and whether the 7-time world champion still got ‘it’.
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Most important thing in F1 is the car. Schumy left Benetton and helped Ferrari developed a good car in five years. Any formula 1 true fans seeing Button’s pace at the moment will know that Hamilton and Button are just wasting that mclaren. Give that mclaren to Alonso and Schuey and see true racing. Hamilton is gifted but lack the maturity to handle situations. Alonso was with Renault for 2 years and he was like a moroon. F1 is 60% car.
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Alonso had his chance in a McLaren.
He seemed a little over-awed by a certain 21 year old team mate from Hertfordshire.
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I think maybe I am in a class of my own! I LOVE Schumy and one of the things I have always loved about watching him race is his passion for it. I assume he’s dawdling around the mid section of F1 nowadays simply because he still loves it. It would have been great to see him come back to the sport and dominate it again but nobody can take his past achievements away from him and I’m more than happy to have him in there doing it for the love rather than the parties like some! ;-)
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Competitors are judged on their results. It doesn’t matter how MS won, he just did. Unsporting, bullying, brash, call it whatever you like. MS was a brilliant driver. His trophy cabinet proves the fact!
Love him or hate him? How stupid! We don’t even know him. Those who promote the negative side of MS have probably read about him and little more. I admire him and regret only that he is no English. And on that point, if MS were English, woulde this debate be taking place? Would such an article have ever been written?
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I can’t say I agree with you, but I doff my cap to a point well made nonetheless
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Acknowledged. Thank you
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Remind me again what you do for a living. Oh yes, you write a few words for some obscure magazine.
In your chosen occupation have you reached the pinnacle yet? Are you to be considered to be the best at what you do?
No.Thought not- Those that can,do;those that can’t,talk(write)about it.
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This is nonsense he just picked the wrong team when there was a shift of power from Brawn (Mercedes) to McClaren. If they were all driving the same car I’m sure Schumacher would still be No.1.
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I agreed with this article.
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1994. Adelaide.
I will never forgive Ze Cherman for careering into a wall, re-joining the track, then careering into Damon Hill (who had the racing line) at the next corner. Scuppering Damon’s championship, then standing trackside – when news came through of Damon’s retirement from the race with a broken suspension arm – with a “phew, I can’t believe I’ve won” look on his face.
1997. Spain.
Deliberately attempting to drive Jacques Villeneuve off the track to win the championship.
2002. Austria.
I’ll never forgive him for taking the win from Rubens (his championship lead was so large, he had no need to do it following team orders), and his egregious summoning of Rubens to the top step of the podium afterwards. Vomit inducing.
2006. Monaco.
I’ll not forgive him for speciously “parking” his Ferrari at La Rascasse knowing that the qualifying session would be red-flagged thus spoiling Alonso’s (potentially quicker) lap.
2010. Hungary.
Forcing Rubens dangerously close to the pit wall for no apparent reason, endangering Rubens’ life.
Finally, what leaves a sour taste in my mouth is 7 titles. But 7 titles in an era with no appreciable opposition apart from Mika (who retired too early IMHO). At least Fangio won 5 titles racing against the likes of Sir Stirling / Hawthorn / Collins / Behra / Musso / Brabham / Lewis-Evans / Bonnier / Salvadori.
Bookmark this, because I say Schumacher won’t win a F1 race ever again.
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well said
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