Blog: Do higher earners really need child benefit?
Monday 4th October 2010, 11:36AM BST.
“Difficult but fair” is the phrase George Osborne used today after announcing that higher earners are going to lose their child benefit.
I wonder how long he pondered that one? While I am all for cuts to child benefit, because a one-size-fits-all policy is of no use when the purse strings are being pulled to breaking point, I’m not so sure the change he is talking about is fair.
Necessary, maybe, but fair – hardly.
We know there need to be cuts and we know it’s not going to be fun. The situation is desperate. And, let’s face it, child benefit is the obvious choice in terms of where the axe should fall. It is the benefit handed out to everyone regardless of need. That’s a laudible policy but it’s one we certainly can’t afford.
I applaud the brave move to tackle it head-on and say it’s time this gravy train stopped. I bet there are a fair few high-earners who wouldn’t even notice it being cut.
But, once again, it is the middle-class families who already get precious little back from their tax contribution who will be hit hardest. It’s the super rich who should have been in his sights.
And then there is problem in that there is a glaring loophole: Those earning over £44,000 are to be affected with a blanket cut on the individual claimant. Osborne admitted that a household with two people earning £44,000 each, totalling £88,000, could still receive the benefit, whereas a household where just one person was earning £50,000 would have it withdrawn.
Is that fair or, indeed, the best money-saving tactic? Do you really think so, George? Because the one-income household probably needs it more than most. They have no-one to fall back on for help. What about helping those who help themselves?
He went on to claim in this Tory Conference speech that it will show we are all in this together, but it’s hardly going to feel like that when this kind of glitch occurs in how the figures are reached.
The chancellor has claimed that this is merely because he doesn’t want to waste the savings made on a new system to means-test each individual family. But surely that’s not necessary if you simply insist that families declare on one form how much money comes into the house, set a ceiling and use that to decide where to make the cuts.
Although I don’t have much faith in the benefits system or that it could ever be simple.
I submitted a claim for my first son – now almost two years old – shortly after he was born. I received a letter back in which they had added two children I had never heard of and wanted to give me more than £160 a month.
A year later, after endless phones calls, various letters and the same copy of the application form and resulting award for my “three children” being submitted six times, I eventually managed to persuade them I only had one child and he was the only one I would be claiming for. The mix-up must have cost hundreds of pounds in man hours alone.
Make the cut if you have to George – it is time, but don’t pretend it’s fair and while you’re at it get them to sort out the present system. It could just save you a few extra quid.
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The critical part in all this is that Child Benefit is by definition benefit for the child.
That’s right, it’s the child’s *not* the parent’s. The parent maybe the recipient but they are not meant to be the beneficiary.
True, some people choose to spend the cash on themselves and I think we can all agree that these are bad people, but equally those who consider themselves too wealthy to claim it are mistaking vanity for morality – it isn’t theirs to turn down and they are no better than anyone who spends it on ciggies and beer.
So, it’s the child’s money and attempting to link it in any way with the parents earnings is to fundamentally misunderstand it’s purpose.
The cutting of the benefit is effectively stealing from babies – you know, it’s pretty low which ever way you slice it..
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The Chancellor, in his naivety appears to have made a pretty basic mathematical mistake here. How can it possibly be considered fair for a family earning £86,000 per annum (via 2 salaries of £43,000) to keep this benefit, whilst a single earner getting £44,000 doesn’t?
I don’t have a particular problem with effectively means testing this benefit for the upper end of the pay scale, but it has to be done on a fairer basis.
I suspect the reason for allowing this anomaly is to pander to the many Tory small business types, where both a husband and wife are directors of the business, and can shift income between them accordingly to take advantage of what is in effect a new tax loophole.
Of course, the loss of a couple of grand a year is little more than pocket money to our Chancellor or the PM, both of whom have multi-million pound family fortunes behind them, nor is it a significant amount to the rest of the super-rich. The Chancellor acknowledged in his speech that people on £44k per year were ‘not the super rich’ yet in the same breath claimed this was proof that ‘we are all in thuis together’… Really George?
So where are the measures to increase the tax rates for the super-rich who caused the recession in the first place? Where are the measures even to make these people pay the same proportion of their income in tax and NI as the rest of us do? That in itself would go a long way to solving the over-stated debt problem.
It seem to me that if we are to have any equitable solution to this we need to look at a transferable tax allowance between husband and wife – I note that already this morning the gov’t are backtracking and talking about this very point.
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Two things here which need to be mentioned:
1) having children is a lifestyle choice – others who do not have children (either are not able to or choose not to) should not be penalised/taxed to contribute towards blanket-issue of Child Benefit and associated benefits to others.
2) there are far more needy people, who through no choice of their own (ie. unavoidable or inherited longterm medical condition or genuine disability requiring extra support, or through unexpected circumstances encounter death of a parent/husband/wife in the family) who should be given far greater priority.
3) I think Child Benefit, if it has to remain at all, should be means tested and also only provided for families where one parent is working, to discourage unnecessary reliance on benefits.
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I’d say in principle this is fine, but in practice the tories have bodged their PR by not doing their homework. http://floatvoter.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/child-benefit-number-crunching/
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The average salary in this country is nowhere near £40,000. Anyone, single or married, on that sort of income should not be reliant on Government handouts. The payments should also be stopped for families with a JOINT income over £40,000!
Another great step forward would be to change the benefit altogether and stop paying anything for 3rd, 4th and 5th children. If you want to have large families you should be prepared to support them!
We all have to be prepared to face cuts and those middle England people who foolishly voted Labour 13 years ago when they were seduced by the, now proven, empty promises had obviously not lived long enough to remember the previous times in the last fifty years when Labour were in power and each time left the British economy is an equally sorry state!
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Totally agree with John about the joint amount and additional children. You should be an MP!
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