Expert putting his foot in it

Shropshire ankles?TV antiques expert Rupert Maas has caused a stir over his comments about the “Shropshire ankle”. Tracey O’Sullivan checks out reaction on the ground.

“On no, well I’m in enough trouble already so I might as well keep on digging myself an even bigger hole to fall into.”

Rupert MaasThe reaction from Antiques Roadshow presenter Rupert Maas was instantaneous - as soon as I had introduced myself and explained I was calling from the Shropshire Star.

And why?

Because the art expert and London gallery owner has caused something of a stir by introducing the “Shropshire ankle” to a national television audience.

Innocently discussing a painting with a viewer who had attended the Roadshow at Bolton Abbey in North Yorkshire, Mr Maas described the young girl in the piece, who was lazing in a hammock with her leg lazily draped over the edge, as having a Shropshire ankle.

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In other words - thick set.

He said his mother had told him about the particular physical trait attributed to the county as he mused over the artwork by Algernon Talmage, a minor British impressionist painter who was born in 1871 and died in 1939.

He specialised in landscapes, animals and subjects, so his interpretation of a girl in a hammock proved very interesting to Mr Maas.

But his comment landed him in all kinds of hot water - and not just from Shropshire women objecting to the suggestion their ankles were anything but trim.

“My mother called me the very next day to say she had never said anything of the sort to me,” admitted Mr Maas who has found the resulting controversy all rather amusing.

“But I do believe I got it from somewhere. I have been racking my brains for days trying to think where I heard it. I am not 100 per cent sure but I think it may have been in some writings by Evelyn Waugh. But again I am not sure about that.

Girl in a hammock by Algernon Talmage - but does she sport Shropshire ankles?“But it has certainly started a debate. I was filming another episode of the Antiques Roadshow in North Wales last week and I had several people approach me to discuss the comments I made about the Shropshire ankle.

“One woman said she had heard the phrase before and another lady who is an orthopaedic nurse said she was looking into whether there was any medical findings to back it up.

“She said she had not come across anything yet but was continuing her research to see if she could find anything that might explain it.”

Mr Maas suggested that one theory could surround Shropshire’s rural landscape and how it may have contributed to the female form over the years .

“Shropshire is one of the most rural counties and it is hilly in parts so this could suggest that the attire women may have worn may have something to do with it.

“Living in such surroundings women, many of whom would have been farmers wives, would have possibly worn lots of flat, firm footwear and wellington boots which could explain why thick set ankles have been associated with Shropshire.”

But Mr Maas also admitted he could be grasping at straws.

“When my mother called to say she had not said it I did Google it and I couldn’t find much so I am at a loss as to where I heard it now. It would be really interesting to try and find out and see exactly what the origins of it are.

“It must have come from somewhere. I’m sure it is there in my head for a reason”

And Mr Maas said he is also happy to tackle the hordes of disgruntled women who may feel his comments had suggested their legs were anything but honed and toned.

“I have been in Shropshire many times and some of my best friends are from the area although I have to say I have never made a point of checking out women’s ankles,” he joked.

“I am sure they are all delightful in Shropshire and I do enjoy getting feedback from the items on the programme.

“I know we get a great response from viewers because many of these topics are of great interest and other people will have some useful input.”

Certainly women in the county have not noticed a specific shape of ankle which typifies Shropshire.

Lucy Bell, a personal trainer at Innaction Health and Fitness at the Park Inn in Telford said the topic was certainly a talking point following the comments on the popular Sunday night show.

But she said it was not a problem area which greatly concerned women signing up for workout sessions at the gym.

“It’s not something I have noticed at all but I think it will have women talking,” she added.

“I do hope it’s not a local trait because I certainly don’t want to get fat ankles.”

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* Have you heard the phrase Shropshire ankle or do you have any information on its origins? If so please write and tell us about it. Send your letters to Shropshire Ankles, Features Desk, Shropshire Star, TF1 5HU or email starfeatures@shropshirestar.co.uk

The painting of a girl in a hammock by Algernon Talmage

16 Comments

  1. sgd said:

    hello,
    perhaps Rupert Maas has read about Hannah Cullwick(of Shropshire) and her unusual marriage to Arthur Munby.
    Frequent references to Hannah’s size and strength would support the image of a “Shropshire ankle”.

    s.g.d.

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  2. Rob, Telford said:

    Let’s just suppose that he’d been looking at another painting on the same programme and made a comment about “*****ian lips” - he’d never have appeared on television again. The only people you’re allowed to make racist comments about in this country are the English - preferably the working class.

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  3. Y Mab Darogan said:

    From personal experince quite a few Shropshire woman do have big ankles and are quite robust but that is no bad thing.

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  4. Lucy W said:

    Yes, this was a sexist and racist comment, but are the Police Investigating it? No! Need I say more?

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  5. Y Mab Darogan said:

    Lucy W comments are only deemed racist or racist if you in a minority.

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  6. jdjackson said:

    Will Mr Chagas complain about Chagas Disease. Will Mr Downs complain about Downs Syndrome?
    I never heard anyone in Derbyshire (or friends with the surname Darbyshire) complain about the nickname of goitre - Derbyshire Neck. Must have been a slow news day.

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  7. Davinia Bethridge said:

    In modern speak,”Get a life”!!!!

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  8. Jo said:

    PC gone mad as usual! My grandmother used to mention Shropshire ankles and being from Shropshire I find it more amusing that local and national papers have nothing better to report on!! What a joke.

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  9. Lucy W said:

    My point is its one rule for one lot, and another for another lot - thats not equality!

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  10. Patrick said:

    What are you lot on about ? What a pathetic non-story.

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  11. Alix said:

    Firstly, I cannot see that the woman in the painting has particularly wide ankles. But secondly and more importantly, if she does (or if any woman does), so what? Are women now to defy their own bone structure in the quest for a perfect body?

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  12. Lucy W said:

    The point is Alex, if we refered to a particular race as having certain features, there would be a riot. Yet its ok to say that Shropshire Women can all be tarred with the same brush as having big un-feminine ankles.
    Personally I’m not bothered what people think of Shropshire ankles, but I get annoyed when I cant make a light hearted sweeping statement about another race in the same way. Now that’s not equality is it?

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  13. Peter Wignall said:

    Were the British always so uptight? Your ‘have your say’ displays an over sensitive and highly strung population. I am thankfully an expatriate Shropshire lad.

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  14. Dulcie Gose said:

    Perhaps the expression doesn’t refer a region. I’m not familiar with breeds but maybe the Shropshire pig or sheep has a distinctly fat hock. Maybe there is a chicken or drafthorse from Shropshire with a “full figured” ankle so one could be from any part of the country and have a Shropshire ankle.

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  15. Jon Silence said:

    Rather funny all this; Mr Maas, has purchased several pictures from my family over the years and paid very generous prices for all of them. Amongst the London art trade, he’s a rare breed, a true gentleman. He’s got a great wit which I suspect has been taken out of context with this nonsense. I asked my 85 year mum about the ‘Shropshire ankle’ phrase and she said she was familiar with it, that its an oldie but goodie that goes way back.

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  16. Kim M. Husbands said:

    Rupert Maas said what he was thinking. It may not have been the kindess thing, but he was perfectly honest about a what the thought an acurate body-part discription; Like saying ‘child-bearing hips’, or ‘dancer’s legs’. He is not the first to associate larger shaped ankles with Shropshire women, and he will not be the last. So cut the man a break. He is so good at what he does and it was just a bit of a slip up. He needs a little compassion. He just happend to repeating something that may or may not be an actual natural traite passed down through the genes for generations.

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