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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:31:18 +0000

BRIAN (2), thanks for the love.

However, I would prefer an answer from you.

As Peter won’t comment on the institutions I mentioned in #109, maybe you can.

Or are you deaf to this sort of thing?

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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:19:07 +0000

Peter, you said (#103), ‘Unfortunately in common with all zealots, you simply won’t even countenance the other side of the argument.’

However, it seems that nearly every contributor to these discussion boards is a climate-change denying zealot, who will not countenance the other side of the argument.

If not, then what do they have to say about the institutions that I cited in comment #109?

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By: BRIAN(2)

BRIAN(2) — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:14:24 +0000

Lucy, Huw will always turn a deaf ear when he knows he is in the wrong . This has happened on several other threads where he has accused others of doing something or saying something which is totally different to what has actually been said.

To know Huw is to love him!!!

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By: Lucy

Lucy — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:13:31 +0000

Huw: I refer you to my comment #101. It is my infererence by your ommision to deal with this, that you are ashamed that you wrongly called me a liar.

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By: John

John — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:14:22 +0000

Dear Lucy
Thank you for your information. I certainly need to rethink my flock.
I presume you have a licence from DEFRA as it appears that you have over 50 birds. I dont want to get that large but have wondered if it is possible to increase a flock to a profitable level whilst producing a quality product with the highest animal welfare standards.
I understand that “Barn” and “Free Range” regulations are not quite as the consumer imagines.

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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:21:20 +0000

Graham Bunn (one of the Telford penguins) (#67) ‘Climate change is not a belief system like religion ,it is a theory backed up by substantial scientific evidence.’

Lucy W., you said in #91, ‘I respect the actions, views and rights of these people’ [the Telford penguins].

I think, like most things you say, something doesn’t add up.

How can you say that I am ’spouting climate change rubbish’ if you respect the Telford penguins’ views?

Do you believe that these institutions which have issued strongly worded statements on climate change are also ’spouting climate change rubbish’?

The IPCC, the science academies of Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, India, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, the UK and the USA, as well as the International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences; European Academy of Sciences and Arts; Network of African Science Academies; the International Council for Science; the European Science Foundation; the American Association for the Advancement of Science; the Federation of American Scientists; the World Meteorological Organization; the American Meteorological Society; the Royal Meteorological Society (UK); the Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society; the Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society; the Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences; the American Geophysical Union; the American Institute of Physics; American Astronomical Society; the American Physical Society; the American Chemical Society; the National Research Council (US); the Federal Climate Change Science Program (US), the American Quaternary Association; the Geological Society of America; Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia); the Stratigraphy Commission of the Geological Society of London; the European Geosciences Union; the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics; and the International Union of Geological Sciences.

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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:16:50 +0000

Peter, r.e your comment (in #69) about Dr Reid Bryson being ‘the most frequently-cited climatologist in the world’ according to the British Institute of Geographers. Could you please

1) give me the reference for this?

2) explain why the British Institute of Geographers devotes its website to explaining the reality of man-made climate change?

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:35:32 +0000

Brian(2): There is also a Health and Safety issue there as well. Air Bags wont work if the ignition is switched off!!! What do these Greenies want, Mr Polar Bear to keep his paws dry while we all get killed on the roads? (Second thoughts, thats might solve their Global Warming fantasy)

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By: BRIAN(2)

BRIAN(2) — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:23:54 +0000

The problem with councils and the Green Issue is that they don’t really know what they are doing.
Take for example the West Sussex council who last week decided to fine motorists for leaving their engines idling for more than a few seconds. Once again the council showed it’s total ignorance of practical matters and common sense. They didn’t realise that switching engines on and off continuously causes more pollution and was likely to result in flat batteries, cars going no-where and even more hold ups causing even more pollution…where do these people get their intelligence from???

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:19:17 +0000

John: Try your local Indian Restaurante, they usually buy old hens.
My BxLB are infact used for commercial laying and are infact the same green eggs that Waitroses sell for silly money although there is no justification for the price. However I have heard that commercial producers are now backing out of that market as the credit crunch is effecting peoples spending attitudes in that respect – so perhap there could be a niche opening up?
I have just made a contact with someone who has a 140 egg incubator, so I will probably do one large hatching in the spring.

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:12:08 +0000

Peter: Glad to hear I’m not the only one Huw ignores when he finds a question difficuklt/embarrasing to answer.
I dont expect he will ever tell me what he says is disbelievable about my eco-claims.
His problem is I live a greener lifestyle than he does, yet I dont believe in the Global Warming rubbish he spouts on about.
Wish I could end this post on a witty line but I dont think I can better your sackcloth and ashes one!

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By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:54:32 +0000

Still here Huw,, but as I’ve said before, quite busy – and clearly with less time on my hands than you. I’m frankly quite annoyed that you should accuse me of telling lies. I just got my sources from a different part of the internet than you.

Unfortunately in common with all zealots, you simply won’t even countenance the other side of the argument.

You still haven’t offered any answer to my question about how much difference our current pain in terms of high fuel prices, all of our recycling, and having to suffer constant 24-hour propaganda will actually make to the temperaturew of the planet. Perhaps I should accuse you of ‘disappearing’ on that one?

I believe the planet is going through a period of warming – I believe it’s done so before – there’s evidence for that, and I believe our use of vehicles etc. may be exacerbating this slightly
– but that’s not the cause.

But Huw, trying to present any argument to you is like trying to persuade avowed Creationists that the world really isn’t 5000 years old. It’s pointles, because they , like you are determined to believe what they want to believe, no matter what.

I’ll carry on sleeping soundly in my bed knowing that the Planet will sort itself out, as it has done before. You carry on with the sackcloth and ashes, and telling the waves to go back if it makes you feel better.

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By: John

John — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:33:26 +0000

Dear Lucy
Gosh I wasn’t expecting such a technical answer!
I was told that Wellsummers were the ones used in the Kellog Cornflakes adverts so assumed that they would be good layers. Obviously not so.
I gather by you/your fathers knowledge that you are a country people who know a thing or two about poultry.
Perhaps changing mine to Burford x Legbar might be the sensible thing to do, but I don’t know anyone who would want my Wellsummers, even for free.
Is your cross bred just your own preference or a breeding used by people who know?
I have seen small green eggs in Waitrose that are very expensive. Are they Legbar eggs? Why are they so expensive?

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:09:57 +0000

Huw: First things first. Can we get back to what you dont believe about my eco-credentials or do you wish to withdraw your earlier remark?

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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:39:31 +0000

Abraham Lincoln: You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

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By: Huw Peach

Huw Peach — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:38:34 +0000

Nice try, guys.

I have to confess, it has cheered up my morning.

However, even the most credulous child who still believes in Santa Claus would have smelt a rat when John started talking about his cock problems.

Can we now get back to what ‘green’ Lucy thinks about the well-documented attempts by PR organisations to undermine trust and our democracy by confusing the public and spreading misinformation about climate change?

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:48:18 +0000

John: Gosh I wasn’t expecting such a technical question! (I had to ask my Dad) He tells me that Wellsummers are really ornamental birds with the cocks being quite spectaculor. They are not great layers or broodies. However RIR’s are and in theory may improve production by crossing.

I have Burford x Legbars (Legbar being a hybrid cross of Leghorn and Barr Rock). Both pure-bred Burfords and Leghorns can be sexed by plumage, but the cross I have can’t – damn!
The cross produced large brown eggs (Burfords) and smaller green eggs (Legbar) but the hens are indistinguishable.
I have been crossing a BxLB cock with a BxLB hen and they are throwing back some pure LB and pure Black Rock hens (cocks all seem to be crosses)!
All very intriguing, but the LB is a complicated hybrid produced from sex linkage, so I expect a geneticist would understand.
As for cooler weather, the only solution is some heat and keep them indoors which probably isn’t economic sense. When I was a child, we used to move our RIR’s into large empty greenhouses for he winter.
Hope that helps, if you want some sitting eggs anytime (BxLB x BxLB), I’d be happy to post some.

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By: John

John — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:24:53 +0000

Dear Lucy, a friend pointed me towards this website as I have chickens as well.
I have Wellsummer purebreds that are still laying but I only get one egg every three days. I have bred from the hens, but they dont seem to go very broody and feel that I need a new cock to bring some fresh blood into them. I was thinking of crossing them with a Rhode Island Red. What do you think? What breed(s) do you keep – any tips to keep them laying in the colder months?
P.S. Your caravan with a wood-stove sounds very cosy now the dark nights are drawing in.

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By: Lucy W

Lucy W — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:21:23 +0000

Huw: I guess there is no further comment I can make while you dodge the challenge I made in comment 91.
You imply I am dishonest but refuse to state what you dont belive about my eco-credentials or withdraw such a defaming remark.
You behavior is typical of bad loosers, you resort to personal abuse and ridicule when someone makes a fair point that you cant challenge.
You are very misled if you believe there is a scientific consensus on GW – far from it!
As I said before, you are welcome to your blind faith, I will stick to facts that are open to scrutiny.
So are you going to withdraw your allegation that I have made a false statement about my eco-credential or are you going to tell me what is false and allow me to provide evidence?
Its up to you Huw to be a man or carry on as you are, like a little child, throwing his toys out the pram because he cant get the attention and admiration he seeks!

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By: BRIAN(2)

BRIAN(2) — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:30:27 +0000

Lucy,
I too find Huw’s persistance of wanting peoples names from which he can obtain addresses very suspicious too, I would consider reporting him if he pushes for that information and not send him any e mails from which he can trace you.

Keep up with your truly green life style…it seems you are the only true green in this debate.

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